10-29-2014, 08:28 PM
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#341
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Calgary
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Wow. Just wow.
Gotta wonder if he pulled one over on the "crisis management" firm here... or maybe ended up believing his own lies about it being "just one spiteful ex"?
Either way, that facebook post on Sunday is looking like a major misstep.
I'll take the infraction: ####ing scumbag.
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10-29-2014, 08:33 PM
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#342
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: St John's
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Aaaaand the other shoe drops... I wonder how many women we will get coming forward now that a well known actress came out publicly.
Surely now I would assume the police have to conduct an investigation with someone going public? Or do they only get involved if a complaint is made directly to them?
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10-29-2014, 08:34 PM
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#343
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Calgary
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I wonder if he's going to enjoy the other side of the fist in prison.
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10-29-2014, 08:35 PM
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#344
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Craig McTavish' Merkin
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It takes a lot of guts for Lucy to come forward like this. She has my utmost respect.
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10-29-2014, 08:43 PM
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#345
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by troutman
Didn't mean to be insensitive or make light of the situation. This man is in a heap of trouble.
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Not at all, Your statement startled me because on some level I would not be surprised if it came to pass.
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10-29-2014, 08:44 PM
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#346
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kerriffic
Aaaaand the other shoe drops... I wonder how many women we will get coming forward now that a well known actress came out publicly.
Surely now I would assume the police have to conduct an investigation with someone going public? Or do they only get involved if a complaint is made directly to them?
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There may be a difference between Alberta/Ontario laws, but didn't Theo Fleury have to file a police report after his book came out with new accousations against Graham James?
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10-29-2014, 08:46 PM
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#347
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DownInFlames
It takes a lot of guts for Lucy to come forward like this. She has my utmost respect.
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Yup, the first makes it so much easier for others to come forward. The first three to come forward anonymously probably made Lucy realize that what had happened to her was not a small isolated incident, that what Jian did to her was something that he could be defended for, and decided to come forward herself. Now that someone that's well known actually came forward, you probably see more women following her lead.
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10-29-2014, 08:54 PM
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#348
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: St John's
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaydorn
There may be a difference between Alberta/Ontario laws, but didn't Theo Fleury have to file a police report after his book came out with new accousations against Graham James?
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I'm not sure which is why I'm asking some of the legal experts on here can provide some opinions.
My legal experience extends to a single semester of legal studies at Central Memorial high school back in 1998 that I only took because I had a crush on a girl who was in it.
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10-29-2014, 09:09 PM
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#349
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Now world wide!
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The details in the most recent allegation reported in the Star are pretty bad.
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Last year, in 2013, a woman in her mid-20s says she had been on a few dates with Jian, but they never had sex. After they had been out of touch for weeks, she recalls Ghomeshi inviting her to his new house in Toronto’s Beach area because he “needed” to see her to discuss something important.
When she arrived, she says Ghomeshi sat her down for an intimate conversation. She says he told her that she might be “the one” for him, that he “didn’t buy this big house to throw parties, but to raise a family.”He then kissed her, she says, and while kissing he “pulled (her) hair so hard my neck flew backward, and when it did,” she alleges, “he smacked me.”
She objected and asked why he did this. He laughed, she says, and explained to her that in order for him to build a future with her, he would need to see if they were sexually compatible, and she would have to “let (him) enjoy this the way (he) wants to.”
She says that he then turned his teddy bear around on his bed, telling her the bear “shouldn’t see this.”Ghomeshi began kissing her again, she says, and struck her in the face once more, harder than before. He pointed out his erection, she says, as proof that she was “the one” for him.
He then allegedly demanded she kneel in a constrained position, allegedly grabbed her by the neck and hit her in the face hard, and allegedly engaged her in fellatio, forcefully. She says Ghomeshi bit her, leaving marks on her breasts, inner thighs and back. Later, Ghomeshi called her a degrading term. She objected, she says, and told him, “don’t talk to me like that.”
She says Ghomeshi shrank away from her at that moment, sulking. “You’re making me feel like a weirdo,” she recalls him saying. He then said, “You need to go,” and left the room. She dressed and walked downstairs, where she found Ghomeshi on his couch, absorbed in his computer screen, checking Twitter. She left the house, she says. He did not say goodbye.
Months later, she confronted him in an email, suggesting that details of his behaviour might go public. “i’m shaking as I read this,” he responded, “can we please talk?”
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I see the Star had it's defamation lawyers on this too. That's a lot of allegedlys.
Edit: actually the allegations before that one are even worse.
Last edited by flylock shox; 10-29-2014 at 09:14 PM.
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10-29-2014, 09:15 PM
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#350
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: North America
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The public pressure for criminal charges will continue to mount.
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10-29-2014, 09:21 PM
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#351
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Franchise Player
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Well, these very similar stories are pretty damning all together.
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10-29-2014, 09:26 PM
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#352
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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Even if he doesn't end up in prison his career and reputation are gone.
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10-29-2014, 09:27 PM
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#353
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Machiavelli
Well, these very similar stories are pretty damning all together.
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Yup, reminds me of the early days of Rob Ford when things starting leaking out.
Last edited by chemgear; 10-29-2014 at 09:31 PM.
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10-29-2014, 09:28 PM
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#354
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Craig McTavish' Merkin
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Here's a twitter account with accusations against Jian dating back to April.
https://twitter.com/bigearsteddy
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10-29-2014, 09:33 PM
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#355
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Franchise Player
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Oh boy. Rape charges to come I hope.
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10-29-2014, 09:41 PM
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#356
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Norm!
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Indefensible
And really weird with the teddy bear thing.
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10-29-2014, 09:49 PM
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#357
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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How is it that the Toronto Star has become the last great source of real investigative journalism. They got both rob ford and now Ghomeshi. All this from what people used to consider a tabloid rag
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10-29-2014, 09:52 PM
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#358
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Our Jessica Fletcher
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This guy is disgusting... Just a completely worthless human being.
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10-29-2014, 09:54 PM
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#359
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Lifetime Suspension
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The frightening part is this has been going on for over 10 years according to that CBC interview. How many women has he assaulted in 10+ years? Yikes
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10-29-2014, 10:08 PM
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#360
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Franchise Player
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There is nothing about these stories which suggests any consent was even attempted to be sought, let alone informed consent.
Good for Lucy in coming forward. Hopefully more are prepared to officially do so now as well - and to the authorities.
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