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Old 10-28-2014, 06:09 PM   #4121
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Squiggs was that an eternal power.
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Old 10-28-2014, 06:10 PM   #4122
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Squiggs, can you comment on the eternals thing? And where did the day kill come from?
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Old 10-28-2014, 06:20 PM   #4123
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Trying to figure out the order of events on the night delgar died. Did girly drive the bus to switch ECF and pux? Why would the bodyguard save work? Or did they switch and try to kill pux to get ecf in an effort to avoid the bodyguard save, but the bodyguard save doesn't get affected by a switch or deflector? I think I need to draw a diagram...
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Old 10-28-2014, 06:33 PM   #4124
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Rathji can you give us more info on your day 1 power switch.
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Old 10-28-2014, 06:36 PM   #4125
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Trying to figure out the order of events on the night delgar died. Did girly drive the bus to switch ECF and pux? Why would the bodyguard save work? Or did they switch and try to kill pux to get ecf in an effort to avoid the bodyguard save, but the bodyguard save doesn't get affected by a switch or deflector? I think I need to draw a diagram...
Isn't the bodyguard role essentially a deflection role too? Maybe his deflection over-rode a scum deflection?

If you get that diagram, I'd like to see it. I'm equally as confused.
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Old 10-28-2014, 06:46 PM   #4126
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So the bus driver switches the targets of powers.

So I targeted Puxlut (funny girly was leading the your power couldn't have been the bus driver because no one would target her). My power gets switched to ECF and I get that report.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?...ion_Resolution

Not sure what Maz is using for resolution but my read is that the bodyguard would be switched onto puxlut and wouldn't have worked. Because the bus driver acts on the bodyguard power whereas the bodyguard power does not act on the bus driver doer.

Also based on the straight list the bussing happens first so moves the bodyguard power. Therefore Girly didn't use the bus driver on pux and ECF.

Maz can you clarify what you use for role resolution.
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Old 10-28-2014, 06:51 PM   #4127
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The reason I don't link to mafiascum is because they do things a little differently than elsewhere and you shouldn't rely on their word as gospel, especially for things like resolving power roles.
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Old 10-28-2014, 06:53 PM   #4129
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The reason I don't link to mafiascum is because they do things a little differently than elsewhere and you shouldn't rely on their word as gospel, especially for things like resolving power roles.
Can you post a link to how you resolve powers? Or is that supposed to be hidden?
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Old 10-28-2014, 06:56 PM   #4130
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What a poor time to be legitimately busy! Great job Squiggs. 2 day kills in the game, nice.

Looks like you all want to draw a connection between me and girly. Thats fine, not much I can do. I dont think it is a strong connection at all.

Love the Sword of Damocles line starseed.

Numbers are still okay, GGG can confirm, after you lynch me, a townsperson (villager no less) we will still be able to win. Thats if there are 4 or 5 of them.

I think however, that Girly was only working with one other person, just cant shake the thought there were only 1 or 2. Further like Dissentowner I still do not trust the masons and / or guardians.
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Old 10-28-2014, 06:56 PM   #4131
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Can you post a link to how you resolve powers? Or is that supposed to be hidden?
No. It's not something I will discuss until after the game.
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Old 10-28-2014, 06:59 PM   #4132
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My night 3 actions were: I could not figure out who was responsible for Delgar’s death.

And I was protected from a nightkill.

Not sure if I was just protected, or someone actually tried to kill me.
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Old 10-28-2014, 07:06 PM   #4133
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My night 3 actions were: I could not figure out who was responsible for Delgar’s death.

And I was protected from a nightkill.

Not sure if I was just protected, or someone actually tried to kill me.
I think the first suggests a double kill so both form and the mob killed ECF.

How do you know what actions are done to you is this a power?
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Old 10-28-2014, 07:07 PM   #4134
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Rathji can you give us more info on your day 1 power switch.
Nothing else to really. All was disclosed
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I got the same message either the night after or two nights after, cannot remember. It said that I was protected. Wood also got that message I think
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Old 10-28-2014, 07:19 PM   #4136
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Rathji a query or two.

Why did you not want to vote for dissentowner?

You seemed so sure with your extremely long post with many quotes, you even went so far as to say his lynching today was a foregone conclusion.

Another post you said he was on the top of your list, if you are so sure then why not vote for him?

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Fair enough. I just was expecting a vote after that really long post. All that work but no vote.
These are Aeneas' two posts pushing for a Rathji vote on Diss. This is just after I unvoted and before he voted. So there were 5 votes on Diss at the time.

Aeneas why didn't you vote for diss at that time. The last post wasn't until 3:30 you didn't vote for diss until 7:30.

At which point in time you stopped bugging for more votes and girly did
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Old 10-28-2014, 07:20 PM   #4137
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I got the same message either the night after or two nights after, cannot remember. It said that I was protected. Wood also got that message I think
Can you check if the doctor was alive still that night?
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Old 10-28-2014, 07:31 PM   #4138
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Vote Count:

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes on any one player to hammer. It takes 4 votes to deadline lynch.

Hasn’t Voted (5): starseed, Drury18, Timbo, squiggs96, Puxlut

Voted:
Aeneas (4): Rathji, Oling_Roachinen, dissentowner, GGG
dissentowner (2): Aeneas
Puxlut (1):
squiggs96 (1): Hockeyguy15

The deadline is Tuesday, October 28th at 10:00 PM Mountain Time.
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Old 10-28-2014, 07:32 PM   #4139
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18. GirlySports

Day 1 - Bizaro86, RatherDashing
Day 2 - GP_Matt, GP_Matt, Squiggs96
Day 3 - GGG
Day 4 - GGG
Day 5 - GGG
Day 6 - GGG
Day 7 - Dissentower

17. Baxter Renegade/Aeneas

Day 1 - starseed, hmmhmmcamo
Day 2 - Starseed, Timbo
Day 3 - No Vote
Day 4 - GGG
Day 5 - No Vote
Day 6 - Dissentower

If you look at girlies vote pattern she didn't leave any vote trace to speak of. Mafia would have known this time we were going to look at the vote history to validate kills later on. There are two alternate strategies here. The paint splatter approach like mine and Olings and the don't vote approach like Drury, girly and Aeneas.

Aeneas' voting pattern mimics girly and also Drurys.
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There are two alternate strategies here. The paint splatter approach like mine and Olings and the don't vote approach like Drury, girly and Aeneas.

Aeneas' voting pattern mimics girly and also Drurys.
I'm not sure mine is a strategy and "don't vote" so much as I don't understand why you and Oling feel the need to vote and unvote almost on a whim. You guys will take a small tangent, vote, change your mind and vote again. It becomes confusing to me to see so many votes and unvotes and then try to track why you've said it and why you've changed your mind. It's like an abundance of information so you can't track anything back to you.

I'm fully aware that who I vote for will be tracked back to me and I will have to answer to it later so I keep that in mind when I vote. And I don't vote until I'm confident in it, not because I think I might be on to something. I read all the info and make a decision.
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