CP Mafia 3 - Super Smash Mafia - GAME OVER - Darkness Win!

[GGG]

Drury, my gut was puxlut was writing the invites when I got mine. That's why I tracked her in the first place. I would post your raw vote data as well. If you save it as a csv file and open in notepad and copy it in it will be easy for others to re-create.

HG, if the power is good and useful and from the guardians I would take it. Pretty sure the guardians is a scum plot.

[Hockeyguy15]

Interesting that starseed and Puxlut had 2 out of 3 votes on Diss, but didn't want to hammer and now they have 2 out of 3 on Oling. Something to think about if Oling is lynched and flips town. It still worries me that they have an extra vote, and Diss can give someone of his choosing the an extra vote as well.

GGG as for the power, it isn't a kill but it could be pretty good but I am still weary about accepting an invite. If I were to accept that would put them at 5 members.

[GGG]

We need to start to consolidate onto a candidate. Timbo, I think you are the only one who hasn't voted yet so if you could vote that would be good. Also of the 3 or 4 candidates we should also post who we are willing to lynch.

I think I am down to oling and Girlysports as people I want to vote for today an will move to either at lynch. The free doctor power that diss got makes me want to let him use it.

Diss you also shouldn't use either of your powers as the redirector is still out there who could target you and give it to a scum member.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Interesting that starseed and Puxlut had 2 out of 3 votes on Diss, but didn't want to hammer and now they have 2 out of 3 on Oling. Something to think about if Oling is lynched and flips town. It still worries me that they have an extra vote, and Diss can give someone of his choosing the an extra vote as well.

GGG as for the power, it isn't a kill but it could be pretty good but I am still weary about accepting an invite. If I were to accept that would put them at 5 members.

It wouldn't make sense for Starseed and pux to switch like that if they are scum. Jumping on a diss wagon to save Squiggs could make sense but jumping off that and onto someone else doesn't.

My read of Diss's power is that he gives someone the ability to cast two votes not that he gives someone extra votes like pux and Squiggs.

Also Pux and Squiggs for tomorrow I wouldn't hand out your extra vote. It combined with diss's vote could give scum a majority.

[Hockeyguy15]

So now that I am at the computer I will detail more of the invite I got.

The greeting from the Guardians to me, and the 15th Guy of Hockey comment.

Then they say they can't confirm there is scum among them but it wouldn't be a surprise since they are an equal opportunity employer. They can't see alignment but if they are told someone is scum they will belive it.

Then they talk about Masahiro Sakurai and how Mewtwo will be in the new Smash Bros game. They don't know why it's a big deal because Mewtwo sucks in Melee.

Then they talk about the power they offer me, and how we seem to only have 1 PP left to use this. I assume their hockey reference means they think we are running out of time, and need a big lynch.

Then they give me the advice to go after Puxlut because she is shady. Then they talk about how maybe they could recruit her to change her evil ways, but probably not because that would be too much effort.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by GGG

We need to start to consolidate onto a candidate. Timbo, I think you are the only one who hasn't voted yet so if you could vote that would be good. Also of the 3 or 4 candidates we should also post who we are willing to lynch.

I think I am down to oling and Girlysports as people I want to vote for today an will move to either at lynch. The free doctor power that diss got makes me want to let him use it.

Diss you also shouldn't use either of your powers as the redirector is still out there who could target you and give it to a scum member.

Mazrim randomly gives him a doctor power, with no strings attached? I don't really believe that.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by GGG

It wouldn't make sense for Starseed and pux to switch like that if they are scum. Jumping on a diss wagon to save Squiggs could make sense but jumping off that and onto someone else doesn't.

My read of Diss's power is that he gives someone the ability to cast two votes not that he gives someone extra votes like pux and Squiggs.

Also Pux and Squiggs for tomorrow I wouldn't hand out your extra vote. It combined with diss's vote could give scum a majority.

Yes that's what I meant by Diss' power. It's worrysome that there are potentially enough extra votes floating around out there to manipulate the outcome of a lynch.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Mazrim randomly gives him a doctor power, with no strings attached? I don't really believe that.

Someone's town power that they can't reveal gives out powers to other people. Actually if this is true that person should reveal their power even if it causes the power to fail. If it would kill them they shouldn't but if it just ends their power it may (I don't know what the power is) be worth revealing.

I still think the whole pika thing has to be something. Not sure for who but no one would stay in character that long.

As for the invite if scum is sending it out then they have a way to neutralize it. They still have a redirector. So it likely won't help us. If it's not scum then we have the motive questions as to who the guardians are and what is their win condition. I still don't think it affects the town.

[Hockeyguy15]

Oling - If he is scum has a tracker ability and at this point in the game I don't really see how he can use that against us other than lying about who goes where, correct? So miss information at worst, but with all the disclosure we are doing it kind of takes lying out of the picture.

Girly - After wasting 2 lynches proving GGG's power/alignment I don't want to call her bluff yet, if she isn't lying we lose a whole day and a lynch and that would really screw us over. If she is lying she bought herself possibly 1, maybe 2 days at the most before we lynch her and regardless if we lynch her today or in 2 days the mafia will still have night kills. This drops her down the ladder for me at the moment.

Diss - Has 2 potentially game altering powers, the double vote and the other is making someone pretty much unlynchable. If starseed and puxlut are town he has the opposite power to them, I assume to negate their vote. If he isn't lynched tonight and is mafia he could use his anti-lynch power on another mafia member that we are trying to lynch (Oling, Girly, Aeneas, Squiggs) and then we wind up with a no-lynch day.

Squiggs - Well documented weirdness with him, Oling and him could be trying to distance themselves from eachother with all their 'fighting'. If Oling isn't full of it, he does have a point that squiggs could have the offsetting power to the roleblocker who was town.

Aeneas - Another tracker type ability. So the same comment as Oling, at worst we get misinformation.

My vote will stay on Diss for now, but that is where my head is currently at.

[Rathji]

Vote: dissentowner

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Oling - If he is scum has a tracker ability and at this point in the game I don't really see how he can use that against us other than lying about who goes where, correct? So miss information at worst, but with all the disclosure we are doing it kind of takes lying out of the picture.

Girly - After wasting 2 lynches proving GGG's power/alignment I don't want to call her bluff yet, if she isn't lying we lose a whole day and a lynch and that would really screw us over. If she is lying she bought herself possibly 1, maybe 2 days at the most before we lynch her and regardless if we lynch her today or in 2 days the mafia will still have night kills. This drops her down the ladder for me at the moment.

Diss - Has 2 potentially game altering powers, the double vote and the other is making someone pretty much unlynchable. If starseed and puxlut are town he has the opposite power to them, I assume to negate their vote. If he isn't lynched tonight and is mafia he could use his anti-lynch power on another mafia member that we are trying to lynch (Oling, Girly, Aeneas, Squiggs) and then we wind up with a no-lynch day.

Squiggs - Well documented weirdness with him, Oling and him could be trying to distance themselves from eachother with all their 'fighting'. If Oling isn't full of it, he does have a point that squiggs could have the offsetting power to the roleblocker who was town.

Aeneas - Another tracker type ability. So the same comment as Oling, at worst we get misinformation.

My vote will stay on Diss for now, but that is where my head is currently at.

This worries me, and would fit in with what Girly/Timbo/Aeneas seem to be trying to do.

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by Rathji

This worries me, and would fit in with what Girly/Timbo/Aeneas seem to be trying to do.

To clarify, we might think we have an extra day, but they might know that we dont. I have to go with the best vote at this point.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Rathji

This worries me, and would fit in with what Girly/Timbo/Aeneas seem to be trying to do.

It would give away that persons power though. We just need to make sure we lynch pre deadline. If we lynch and hammer doesn't fall we turn around and lynch Diss. No night would occur as a result of the unanimous lynch and we would get a free scum in diss

The vote power is more concerning.

[GGG]

Power = scum. Essentially diss using it means he's scum and who he uses it on is likely scum

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by GGG

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My read of Diss's power is that he gives someone the ability to cast two votes not that he gives someone extra votes like pux and Squiggs..

This is correct. It is a night action, I can't just give that ability at any time.

[dissentowner]

I can't do anymore than I have. When you lynch me and I flip town please focus on the things I have said. It sucks I can't use the doctor and I have no idea why Mazrim gave me it, it was attached to no groups. If I was lying about it I would not just say I was given it from neither group, I would have made something better up than that.

[GGG]

Rathji,

What are your thoughts on oling being bulletproof.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by starseed

Also, I completely forgot about formulates claim that he tried to kill oling. It could have been a lie, but it seems to match up with the facts about the number of night kills. Oling has also aggressively targeted multiple townies, when his tracker ability apparently only have him reason to suspect formulate. If that was the case, he would have gone more aggressively after him, or at least timbo because of the potential link with the rathji post. He hinted at formulate, but aggressively targeted me instead. I don't buy the excuse of "well, formulate didn't hammer Starseed".

Starseed even when I was going aggressively after you, I made sure to mention Formulate in pretty much every second post. You even brought it up as being weird or whatever.

Take a look at this post:
http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpos...postcount=3912

I had probably 20 posts directly suggesting that Formulate was suspicious including multiple votes and we're going to believe that he tried to kill me that night? It would have been suicide for him. I believe, like with his GGG claim, he was just trying to leave the game with as much confusion as possible and maybe a little revenge for me getting him killed.

For better or worse, I trust Starseed and Puxlut. If I were to be revealed, I'd rather not that be an excuse to go after them when I believe we have such an obvious mafia member in our midst.

Here's another thing about Squiggs96:

Originally Posted by squiggs96

Pika doesn't mind the first part of your analysis, as I can buy that. Since I know I'm town, when I flip it, one of Timbo or Oling is likely scum per your analysis. Why not use the kill on one of them? I'd pick Oling out of that, since Drury used the intervention to save Timbo.

This is pretty much right after I revealed our first, and so far only, scum in the game. Even before we get a chance to see if Formulate is SK or mafia, Squiggs96 is calling to kill me?

The day before he tried to frame East Coast Flame for GGG not dieing. Again, he tried to have us lynch our own doctor because a power that turned out to be fake didn't work, tried to have us kill the investigator before I could even prove my claim and his power is a direct counter to a townie.

We've had Squiggs96 in our sight from the beginning, including Wood nominating him for the kill. He's be suspicious everyday, everyday he slithers on through somehow.

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by GGG

Rathji,

What are your thoughts on oling being bulletproof.

Not convinced he is, but accept that is is certainly possible.

Still lower on my list than Diss, his only real defense has been "I will flip town".

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by GGG

The one thing I couldn't figure out that was bugging me is how can he be both the tracker and the mafia godfather. I realized that his scum buddies could just feed him the results.

I have been flip flopping all day the reason being is that oling is me favourite suspect and I couldn't resolve the tracking issue with oling.
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Wait, GGG!

Timbo bucket me and got the Drury18 results.

Unless you think Timbo is lying as well, I've proven my tracking abilities.