Flames to announce plans to announce arena plans in the... future...

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Expansion is hard to do with a covered or even partially covered stadium that has seats all around.

Not if it's designed for it. Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis and University of Phoenix Stadium in Glendale (among others) are both expandable for Super Bowls.

I believe that Investors Group and the new Regina Stadium are both designed to have about 15,000 seats added for Grey Cups.

[underGRADFlame]

Originally Posted by Lord Carnage

Well, went with a friend to an event before the game today, and KK popped by. Notes from our question/answer session were (and pardon the paraphrasing):

- new location will be downtown
- will have LRT station access
- will be more accessible than existing location
- when asked if it would be a joint football/hockey solution, he said "I wouldn't bet against it..."
- he also referenced the architectural uniqueness of the Native American museum in Winnipeg and said that they were attempting to come up with something equally impressive

There was more, but those were the relevant hilights.


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[Lord Carnage]

Originally Posted by underGRADFlame

That's the one - Museum for Human Rights...

Of course there are plenty of more flattering pictures out there (you didn't pick the best), but the point was that they are looking for the new building to be an architectural landmark, and not just a nice building.

Oh - and it won't be saddle shaped.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Lord Carnage

That's the one - Museum for Human Rights...

Of course there are plenty of more flattering pictures out there (you didn't pick the best), but the point was that they are looking for the new building to be an architectural landmark, and not just a nice building.

Oh - and it won't be saddle shaped.

How about this than. Sorry for the fata but this intrigues me in a wrong way.

Spoiler!

[Lord Carnage]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

How about this than. Sorry for the fata but this intrigues me in a wrong way.

LOL... well, the hat shape didn't come up specifically during the QA session, but if I had to go out on a limb, I'd say the impression I got was something less 'western'...

I have been wrong before though...

[DionTheDman]

Originally Posted by Tyler

I also wouldn't be surprised if there were personal seat licenses this go around.

What are these aboot?

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by DionTheDman

What are these aboot?

You're basically buying a seat to offset the construction costs of a stadium/arena.

So say you want to buy season tickets but the section you want is only PSL's, you get to pay whatever the license cost is (say $5000) and then you get the right to buy season tickets for that seat as long as the team is in the arena.

While it is kind of dumb that you are paying in order to be able to buy tickets you can at least sell the PSL if you wish (say to a person who is really far down the wait list and doesn't want wait anymore), however not buying the tickets will usually mean you forfeit the PSL.

[badger89]

Originally Posted by underGRADFlame

Looks like a rolled up belt. Throw a big buckle on the front and you've got a winner! The Buckledome.

[CedarMeter]

Looks like a Knights Helmut to me. Looks cool when lite up though.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Calgary is a rich city so even if there's government money for a new arena there might be PSLs; but if there's no government money PSL's are a lock. Owners will be passing off the majority of the cost of a new arena to someone, lord knows they won't be paying for it all, they didn't get to be rich by giving their money away.

It's pretty funny who the two teams in the NHL who currently have PSLs: Predictably, Toronto. Not predictably? Columbus. If I had to guess right now without having a clue about government involvement, I'd say there's a 40% chance a new arena here will have PSLs. Fans will say they hate it but more than enough rich fans will fork the cash over. Sucks for the average fan but they aren't building a new arena with the average fan in mind, they're building it for more luxury boxes and to charge more for tickets (and have fewer seats, for more luxury boxes).

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

How about this than. Sorry for the fata but this intrigues me in a wrong way.

Spoiler!

A part of me would want to boycott going to games if this was the new arena. For the most part I don't care what it looks like as long as there isn't a western theme. Might as well shape it like a block of cheese in that case.

[Tyler]

Originally Posted by Hackey

A part of me would want to boycott going to games if this was the new arena. For the most part I don't care what it looks like as long as there isn't a western theme. Might as well shape it like a block of cheese in that case.

It was created as a joke.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by underGRADFlame

If they ever build an ugly building like that in this city..I'm moving...I wouldn't want one of my tax dollars going into an eyesore like that.

I asked a buddy from the city about the possible location in the area of the old science center.

Answer - 99.9% not likely as the rumored project is too large.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by T@T

If they ever build an ugly building like that in this city..I'm moving...I wouldn't want one of my tax dollars going into an eyesore like that.

I asked a buddy from the city about the possible location in the area of the old science center.

Answer - 99.9% not likely as the rumored project is too large.

They'd have to remove mewata, which may be historical, the skate park, the car dealerships nath greyhound station, plus the science centre. Then maybe.

Traffic would be tough there too.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by T@T

If they ever build an ugly building like that in this city..I'm moving...I wouldn't want one of my tax dollars going into an eyesore like that.

What if a building like that is privately funded - would you still move?

[#-3]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

They'd have to remove mewata, which may be historical, the skate park, the car dealerships nath greyhound station, plus the science centre. Then maybe.

Traffic would be tough there too.

If you look at the speculated layout, on the map i posted above. they would have to,

knock down GLS Chev, Hyatt, Gray Hound, and some light retail, south of the tracks.

Move Bow Trail

And Rebuild the 14th Over pass.

It would not need to impact the armory, millennium park, or the old science center at all. I could actually see the arena doing something positive for those 3 buildings long term.


edit: and I guess my map had them knocking down the pumphouse theater for parking, but I guess they wouldnt need to do that

[#-3]

If they are going there, I also wonder if the feel of the building will tie into the feel of the Sunalta train station, just to make it seem like they are part of the same complex?

[killer_carlson]

Originally Posted by Hackey

A part of me would want to boycott going to games if this was the new arena. For the most part I don't care what it looks like as long as there isn't a western theme. Might as well shape it like a block of cheese in that case.

Why?

Do you have something against Calgary's ranching and oil history and traditions?

[killer_carlson]

Originally Posted by #-3

If you look at the speculated layout, on the map i posted above. they would have to,

knock down GLS Chev, Hyatt, Gray Hound, and some light retail, south of the tracks.

Move Bow Trail

And Rebuild the 14th Over pass.

It would not need to impact the armory, millennium park, or the old science center at all. I could actually see the arena doing something positive for those 3 buildings long term.


edit: and I guess my map had them knocking down the pumphouse theater for parking, but I guess they wouldnt need to do that

The armoury is one of the classic Calgary building strategy buildings. There are a few left downtown, but one of the early city planners stated that at the natural end of each major road you should build a large, impressive building. They then went on to suggest that it should also be built at an angle if possible, to draw more attention to the architecture. There is that fire hall down town that is angular to the corner as another example.

[SinceDay1]

I attended a Stampeder season ticket holder luncheon this past Tuesday. Gordon Norrie, the Stampeder's president was in attendance. During the Q&A session, there was concern from a STH that the Stamps would play second fiddle to the Flames and have to wait for a McMahon replacement until after a new arena would be built. Norrie commented that a joint facility would be built comprised of 3 multipurpose components: an arena, an outdoor facility and what he described as a fieldhouse. He could not comment on location other than it would be "centrally" located. An announcement is very likely to be made by the new year. The Flames are waiting to have the deal done before making it public to avoid the mess the Oiler's made of their arena announcement. I later had the opportunity to question him directly as he ended up sitting at our table. He had no specifics about the configuration/capacity of the new arena. He did say the entire complex would have a footprint of approximately 25 acres. Parking would likely be "vertical" and would be partially underground and partially above ground. I took it to mean parkade style. Not crazy about that idea. He also said that CFL football would be in the fieldhouse and capacity would be in the neighbourhood of 27,000.