CP Mafia 3 - Super Smash Mafia - GAME OVER - Darkness Win!

[Hockeyguy15]

According to the wiki that Mazrim posted at the start the princess is a town role. For sure it could be a bluff, but are we really at the point where we want to risk it? I'm leaning towards not yet, since there is still Aeneas and Diss.

Aeneas' power seems pretty "normal", nothing fancy and reminds me of the game Aeneas has played so far. Diss has 2 powers, both of which can manipulate the game for whatever side he is a part of.

As of now I am leaning towards Diss because we all seem to have 1 power except for him, as well as he is trying to put heat on Rathji who in my eyes is pretty clearly town. I'm not sure I'm ready to vote yet, I won't be around much tomorrow and Sunday as it's my wife's birthday (not the Internet, Timbo). I'll check in when I can.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Got wifi, was going over the roles real quickly. Some of them make sense. Jack of all trades makes sense for Mario considering his diversity. Wireframe makes GGG unvulnerable to lynch because of his defense, Captain Falcon is apparently an excellent bounty hunter. Etc.

However, some of them make less sense like why Donkey Kong is a gravedigger and Zelda was a roleblocker. But this caught my attention:

Originally Posted by Mazrim

hmmhmmcamo: Zelda, Light / Roleblocker / Lynched Day 2

The roleblocker was town. Squiggs96 power is to stop the roleblocker! The roleblocker who was a townie. His power is real, but it's to help the mafia.

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Vote: Squiggs96

[Oling_Roachinen]

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Vote: Squiggs96

[Aeneas]

Originally Posted by Aeneas

Night 2 i sent her to Oling's house. Timbo came calling. This was an odd one, as I got a no one visited Timbo result. That confused me, because I should not have know that.

Eventually I guess it has to do with Timbos bucket.

Night 1 was Delgar, no one visited. That was Baxter.

Originally Posted by Aeneas

Lastly, as I hate the really long posts and tend to skim alot. (to my disadvantage I am sure)

Which one of you messed with me last night?

Someone played some power on me, however it wasn't bad at all. In fact the longer I have thought about it, the more likely I believe it is that a townsperon must have done it. Not mafia. It was something fairly benign and helpful to me, informatin wise. I did not ask for it, was not able to direct it per se, but I got the info.

So, if the author of this action would post telling me it was them, and could with a few short words or even one word tell me what they did...then I would have, in my own mind, a confirmed townie.

Just hoping someone can prove to me they did it. Then I might trust you.

Found the post I was looking for. I posted this after I got the confusing message at night 2. I should not have known who visited Timbo. I thought someone gave me an extra investigate power, and they had to be town. I was hoping someone could hint that they did it, and I would have, in my mind a confirmed townie.

This was all before Timbo revealed about his bucket.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

On another note, assuming the town does not have an epic screw up and lynch me, who should I protect with this doctor power? Hey, if we trust Timbo and his bucket he could bucket me to be sure I am being truthful during the night.

Couple issues.

Most important, we can't tell Timbo who to bucket. If the mafia knows who Timbo is bucketing they will go for that player to take out 2 townies in the night. Especially with Squiggs96 power they would have a chance to do it even with these freebie doctors.

Two, where did you get the power? No one has claimed it, is Mazrim just feeling bad for how much we suck?

And do we even know if the doctor power, if it is real, would give any information to Timbo to prove you used it? Does it say "your protection of ______ was succesful or something?) Only squiggs96 would know, and I'm not the biggest supporter.

So bad idea in my opinion.



Aeneas being the watcher but only coming up with things that have been said in the thread is suspicious to me as well.

Also no one claimed to be the person putting up the new day messages? So no one is claiming to know that there is a mafia in the Guardians? More mafia misguidance in my opinion.

[Rathji]

I am sure messages are mafia as well.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

According to the wiki that Mazrim posted at the start the princess is a town role. For sure it could be a bluff, but are we really at the point where we want to risk it? I'm leaning towards not yet, since there is still Aeneas and Diss.

Aeneas' power seems pretty "normal", nothing fancy and reminds me of the game Aeneas has played so far. Diss has 2 powers, both of which can manipulate the game for whatever side he is a part of.

As of now I am leaning towards Diss because we all seem to have 1 power except for him, as well as he is trying to put heat on Rathji who in my eyes is pretty clearly town. I'm not sure I'm ready to vote yet, I won't be around much tomorrow and Sunday as it's my wife's birthday (not the Internet, Timbo). I'll check in when I can.

If we lynch girly today and get double night it does not affect our win condition. If she dies during the night it does not affect our win condition. We should not consider her power when deciding if we should lynch her.

However, her play style matches her power, scummy enough not to get killed but not overly scummy to get lynched.

[GGG]

GGG - lynchproof
Pux mason
Starseed mason
Rathji - skip night
hg - master sword

Drury - save

Timbo - bucket
Oling - tracker Form, Drury, Form, Rathji, Girly (is this right)

Diss 2 vote, unanimous lynch, freebie doctor
Squiggs push through, free doctor, something with role playing
Girly Princess
Aeneas watcher, visited delgar, Timbo, Drury, Rathji, Diss

[GGG]

Squiggs, what can you tell us about why you are staying in charactor.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Aeneas

Found the post I was looking for. I posted this after I got the confusing message at night 2. I should not have known who visited Timbo. I thought someone gave me an extra investigate power, and they had to be town. I was hoping someone could hint that they did it, and I would have, in my mind a confirmed townie.

This was all before Timbo revealed about his bucket.

Why did you vote for a Timbo Day 3?

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by GGG

Timbo - bucket
Oling - tracker Form, Drury, Form, Rathji, Girly (is this right)

No.

Night 1 - Formulate, unable.
Night 2 - Drury18, no one.
Night 3 - Formulate, unable.
Night 4 - Rathji, no one.
Night 5 - No night 5.
Night 6 - Squiggs96, he targeted Puxlut.

I targeted Squiggs96 thinking he was least likely to have the redirection on him or however they are redirecting out of my top 4 suspects (Aeneas, Dissentowner, Girlysports and Squiggs96) and that I could get the most information from him because there would be 0 reason for him to target most of the likely townies since they have no night powers. Was surprised he targeted Puxlut, her normal power is useless now that the Serial Killer is dead and we know that the Eternal Powers are fakes.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by GGG

If we lynch girly today and get double night it does not affect our win condition. If she dies during the night it does not affect our win condition. We should not consider her power when deciding if we should lynch her.

However, her play style matches her power, scummy enough not to get killed but not overly scummy to get lynched.

GGG, I don't think we can overlook these mystery votes considering Timbo received one.

Day 2 - GP_Matt (Joined Eternals)
Day 3 - East Coast Flame (Joined Eternals)
Day 4 - Timbo (Was saved)
Day 5 - ???
Day 6 - No night
Day 7 - Puxlut (Joined Eternals)

Not all of the mystery votes have been from joining Eternals.

Squiggs also targeted East Coast Flame on night 2 and Puxlut on night 6. Both players awoke with votes the next day. May be accepting the invites but could be a mafia power to combat Starseed's.

[Drury18]

Originally Posted by Rathji

I am sure messages are mafia as well.

I was thinking about this and went back to look at the CP Lockout Mafia game. I could remember there being a player who could push through a message to the group and identified themselves through it.

I also was reading the roles for the town in that game and a couple of them showed that town could send a message to the message board. Street Pharmacist was Joe Thornton and his night power was to send a message to Mazrim every night for him to add to the flavour for the day. Thornton was town and a flavour writer. Stazzy could do it as well and he was a Roleblocker for the town.

If it is someone town posting those messages, I think they need to identify themselves on the next one. Just come out and say "I am ______" and then post the message.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Drury18

I was thinking about this and went back to look at the CP Lockout Mafia game. I could remember there being a player who could push through a message to the group and identified themselves through it.

I also was reading the roles for the town in that game and a couple of them showed that town could send a message to the message board. Street Pharmacist was Joe Thornton and his night power was to send a message to Mazrim every night for him to add to the flavour for the day. Thornton was town and a flavour writer. Stazzy could do it as well and he was a Roleblocker for the town.

If it is someone town posting those messages, I think they need to identify themselves on the next one. Just come out and say "I am ______" and then post the message.

Why not identify themselves now? They are telling us they know a mafia in the Guardians. Identify themselves now, tell us the mafia member. I don't see why we need to wait a day. Everyone's revealed.

Like I said, I think that it's mafia using it and was hoping to draw attention away from Wood's list of Aeneas/Dissentowner/Girlysports/Squiggs96 and maybe me.

[Oling_Roachinen]

And I mean why be secretive about it. We know GGG is town. I'm pretty sure Starseed is town.

Seems like they are trying to tell us (or in my opinion lie to us that) Rathji or Timbo are mafia. Why not just tell us which one in the message instead of make us guess? And how would they even know?

[Drury18]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

GGG, I don't think we can overlook these mystery votes considering Timbo received one.

Day 2 - GP_Matt (Joined Eternals)
Day 3 - East Coast Flame (Joined Eternals)
Day 4 - Timbo (Was saved)
Day 5 - ???
Day 6 - No night
Day 7 - Puxlut (Joined Eternals)

Not all of the mystery votes have been from joining Eternals.

Squiggs also targeted East Coast Flame on night 2 and Puxlut on night 6. Both players awoke with votes the next day. May be accepting the invites but could be a mafia power to combat Starseed's.

On Day 4, HG15 had a single vote on him to start the day and Timbo had 2.

Starseed posted that the single vote on HG15 was due to them:

Originally Posted by starseed

Hg15's extra vote is due to us. We essentially chose randomly from our current mafia list. We don't have anything to do with the timbo vote.

Timbo said he was standing behind HG15 that night:

Originally Posted by Timbo

Hockyguy is correct I used my power on him last night. Stupid bucket.
That is one vote but I do not know where the other vote came from.

I'm sort of wondering myself if the bucket doubled the vote because he got HG15's vote, and then the replicate of it. Much like if someone he targeted dies, the person dies and he does, so it's a double effect.

[Drury18]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Why not identify themselves now? They are telling us they know a mafia in the Guardians. Identify themselves now, tell us the mafia member. I don't see why we need to wait a day. Everyone's revealed.

Like I said, I think that it's mafia using it and was hoping to draw attention away from Wood's list of Aeneas/Dissentowner/Girlysports/Squiggs96 and maybe me.

I was thinking moreso for verification, although I suppose they could tell us everything first and then verify it via a message the next morning. Either a message comes up saying who they are and we confirm it, or they are killed at night and we no longer get messages and it confirms it.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Drury18

On Day 4, HG15 had a single vote on him to start the day and Timbo had 2.

You could be right. But Timbo's bucket gives him the same effect he said as the person he targeted. Hockeyguy15 got a vote from Starseed, Timbo got a vote from Starseed. That second vote is a bit iffy. Like I said, you could be right but I don't really know why it would double but I think that (and other potential mafia powers) should be considered when looking at how the game will play out. And it could just be because he got saved. Nothing at all in the flavour to suggest that could be a possibility?

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Drury18

I was thinking moreso for verification, although I suppose they could tell us everything first and then verify it via a message the next morning. Either a message comes up saying who they are and we confirm it, or they are killed at night and we no longer get messages and it confirms it.

But if the person writing the letter knows a mafia, especially a mafia who is being considered "likely town" they need to reveal today. Everyone's revealed. No one has claimed that power and no one is claiming they know a mafia member. Seems like it's just there to cause more confusion. (Remember the day before was how the Guardians were 1 day away from winning, could be trying to get us to lynch a Guardian member yesterday to prevent it.)

[squiggs96]

Originally Posted by GGG

Squiggs, what can you tell us about why you are staying in charactor.

Pika has nothing revealable at this time.