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Old 10-22-2014, 06:22 PM   #681
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I sincerely hope this thread avoids becoming about the politics of this event and the speeches coming/ that have happened.

I feel they would fit better in the politics thread.
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Old 10-22-2014, 06:22 PM   #682
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Lets not politicize this but we've had a lot.


http://www.thespec.com/news-story/49...cks-in-canada/

you know exactly what I meant, so don't cloud the issue with irrelevant data.
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Old 10-22-2014, 06:22 PM   #683
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Pointless address to the nation really. In summary: Cliches and Ooga Booga be scared of terrorists at all times...
Pointless post to CP really. In summary: I hate Harper and everything to do with the PCs and it could have been the best speech in history and I would still say it was horrible at all times...
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Given how tight-lipped the police have been to this point, and how much they're likely to know at this point, I have my doubts.

Let's see what Mulcair says. If he jumps on the ISIS train, I'll give both him and the PM the benefit of the doubt, and assume they know something we don't (and that that something is enough to justify that link).
Well he didn't call ISIS by name, and neither did Harper for the event today, but they both did talk about how this attack was about fear:

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"It was intended to make us more fearful of our neighbours but less confident in ourselves but it has failed."

For the most part I felt Mulcair echoed Harpers comments.
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Old 10-22-2014, 06:25 PM   #685
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Pointless post to CP really. In summary: I hate Harper and everything to do with the PCs and it could have been the best speech in history and I would still say it was horrible at all times...
Don't care what you think really...
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Old 10-22-2014, 06:25 PM   #686
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Enough guys. No personal attacks . Let's keep it respectful under the circumstances.

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Great line by Mulcair to finish his speech:

'We will persevere…we woke up this morning in a country blessed with love, and peace...and we will again tomorrow...'
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you know exactly what I meant, so don't cloud the issue with irrelevant data.
2006 the Toronto 18 was raid by police on a plot to attack Parliamenthill.

Anyways I'll get back on topic.
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2006 the Toronto 18 was raid by police on a plot to attack Parliamenthill.

Anyways I'll get back on topic.

Did it happen? no.
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Old 10-22-2014, 06:31 PM   #690
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Pointless address to the nation really. In summary: Cliches and Ooga Booga be scared of terrorists at all times...
Geez, I wonder if you scripted this post before Harper came on the air.
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Did it happen? no.
They were able to stop this attack but does not change intent.
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Did it happen? no.
If you want to talk politics, go to the politics thread.
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They were able to stop this attack but does not change intent.

They weren't able to stop this one, and I personally think these attempt will increase as long as we have our current foreign policies.
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Harper's speech was what it was. A little tougher then Mulcair's but that's to be expected. The key take away is the discussion about strengthening legislature to improve security. Its also important to note that he linked the events of this week together and didn't retreat from calling them Terrorist acts.

I actually liked Mulcair's speech as well. I think he was calm, he claimed solidarity with the Prime Minister. He didn't want to use the term terrorist, which is interesting. His last line was very well scripted.

I didn't expect anything more then vague and brief remarks.

Will be interested to see what Trudeau does.

I do agree with an earlier post, Canada is now at war.
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you know exactly what I meant, so don't cloud the issue with irrelevant data.
Terrorism is not isolated to Islam and the data is hardly irrelevant. We had politically motivated terrorism, religious, environment, etc. A blanket statement that terrorism is caused by Iraq involvement is hardly accurate.

Besides, have we not seen increased terrorism worldwide because of Al Qaeda even before Canadian involvement. Less politics and back on topic now.
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One of my students brothers was in Ottawa today and posted a pic of the slain soldier on duty 10 mins before the attack. Unbelievable.
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If you want to talk politics, go to the politics thread.
This is a very political issue.
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They weren't able to stop this one, and I personally think these attempt will increase as long as we have our current foreign policies.
ISIS was making threats against this country before Canada signed up for the mission.

They were coming no matter what our foreign policy is.
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They weren't able to stop this one, and I personally think these attempt will increase as long as we have our current foreign policies.
No they will stop because this will be a wake up call for Canada. They have let thier guard slip a little and know what to expect now
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ISIS was making threats against this country before Canada signed up for the mission.

They were coming no matter what our foreign policy is.
And Harpers very public support of Israel plays no part in that?
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