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Old 10-22-2014, 08:50 AM   #61
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sickening. i don't know what else to say
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Old 10-22-2014, 08:53 AM   #62
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This is a full blown terrorist attack. O my.

Why the hell would you say that? granted I am not watching the news only reading it here but that seems like a jump to conclusion statement.

Was the moncton shooter a terrorist?

Please wait for evidence to arise before we paint this as a terrorist
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Best witness yet is talking about the weapon, double barrel shotgun, possible two suspects, he's talking so fast I can't transcribe what he's saying fast enough... and they cut him off for more shots fired... this is insane.

There have been at least 2 separate exchanges of gunfire after the initial soldier shooting.
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Old 10-22-2014, 08:54 AM   #64
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I visited Parliament in March and was surprised how freely we could walk the grounds with little visible security. There were a few Mounties in cars but that was it.
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Old 10-22-2014, 08:54 AM   #65
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Why the hell would you say that? granted I am not watching the news only reading it here but that seems like a jump to conclusion statement.

Was the moncton shooter a terrorist?

Please wait for evidence to arise before we paint this as a terrorist
Any attack on government or soldiers in a non military role is a terrorist act!
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Captain on the Quebec incident:

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The fear for me is that if this is the new face of terrorism, its the perfect face. The lone wolf berzerker who's act is a small act but enough to get attention.

What even makes it more concerting is that CSIS came out yesterday and stated that they don't have the resources to track up to 80 targets that left Canada and returned.

The smart terrorist strategy is not to have the grandiose plans and the need to buy a ton of explosives and have different cells of people active that can leak or inform.

This if it is what it is, is truly terrifying, individuals using simple tactics and weapons to show us that we're not safe.

It could be a hit and run like this one.

Or a public stabbing

Or a home invasion

Its impossible to track unless you have 80 agents constantly following 80 suspects.

And if something like this starts to happen more frequently and its successful, like any political exercise it will grow and grow.

It will be like small pack animals attacking and biting a larger predator, eventually the larger predator will succumb.
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Old 10-22-2014, 08:54 AM   #67
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Snipers on National Art Gallery.

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I visited Parliament in March and was surprised how freely we could walk the grounds with little visible security. There were a few Mounties in cars but that was it.
Hell, they let you go inside with tours and tell you were so many things are.

Unless you look really suspicious, they don't really care about you being there
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CBC News Alerts@CBCAlerts2 mins2 minutes ago
More shots fired just off Parliament Hill. Police telling everyone to take cover.
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Before the witness got cut off, he was saying there was a second guy near the gunman who he can't confirm was a second suspect, but he said the second guy was wearing the same scarf type thing.
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Didn't our CF-18's leave yesterday to join the US in air strikes?
Maybe it's just a coincidence.
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Reporting more shots fired right now on CBC tv.
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CBC is reporting MORE shots in downtown Ottawa now
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Didn't our CF-18's leave yesterday to join the US in air strikes?
Maybe it's just a coincidence.
10 planes total and 600 people are going to Kuwait. God I hope this isn't response to that.
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BREAKING: shots fired at Château Laurier
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Why the hell would you say that? granted I am not watching the news only reading it here but that seems like a jump to conclusion statement.

Was the moncton shooter a terrorist?

Please wait for evidence to arise before we paint this as a terrorist
What do you call this? Canada's capital city is under attack, a soldier has been shot, the prime minister has been evacuated to safety and the military mobalized to some degree in Ottawa.

WTF do you call this?
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Why the hell would you say that? granted I am not watching the news only reading it here but that seems like a jump to conclusion statement.

Was the moncton shooter a terrorist?

Please wait for evidence to arise before we paint this as a terrorist

I am sorry, how would you described someone armed storming the parliament building, shooting a soldier at a war memorial?
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BREAKING: shots fired at Château Laurier
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raw footage from inside. gun shots are deafening

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BREAKING: shots fired at Château Laurier
Isn't that where they moved everyone for safety?

Wow.
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