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Old 10-16-2014, 09:06 PM   #2821
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No one ended day 2 with a vote on ECF. Maybe someone has another extra vote. Maybe the mafia? But why pick Timbo today? Could it have been a means to prevent people from joining the eternals? Not enough info to go on I think.
Damn I thought you were on to something good.
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Old 10-16-2014, 09:06 PM   #2822
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There are a few good theories, and I'm not sure which one to believe. If rathji uses his kill is it an instant kill? Pika's full of questions. Does the day end immediately? Do we have to wait for the 24 hour period to lapse? Should Pika plan on being here at a certain time? I've got some things to take care of outside the house.
It would be the same as Wood's kill.
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What did Rathji say he was doing? Was it game night?

If he isn't here soon I am going to bed, had a late hockey game last night.
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Old 10-16-2014, 09:08 PM   #2824
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There are a few good theories, and I'm not sure which one to believe. If rathji uses his kill is it an instant kill? Pika's full of questions. Does the day end immediately? Do we have to wait for the 24 hour period to lapse? Should Pika plan on being here at a certain time? I've got some things to take care of outside the house.
If it's like what happened with Wood's kill on GP_Matt, it is instant and we get a flip on whoever the kill was used on but the day goes on because it only ends with a lynch or a deadline. It's just an extra event during the day, it doesn't stop the day.
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Old 10-16-2014, 09:09 PM   #2825
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Town IMO are me, starseed, puxlut, Timbo, Drury, GGG and HG (once he proves this ability). Let's kill formulate, see what happens and reverse if he flips town. If he flips town, he's revived and we can add another townie to the list. Rathji most likely is town as well, regardless of what happens with his kill

The remaining players are Oling, mrkajz, girly, Aeneas, squiggs and dissentowner. I'm positive at the very least 3 of those 6 are mafia
Wow, step away for a few hours and I was pages behind.

I like the plan for the kill and potential rewind; even with some the powers going haywire, I don't really see how that could go wrong.

I did express my suspicions of formulate earlier, but when I went back and checked his posting history, I couldn't find much that stuck out, though I think a formulate day kill has good merit. I think there could be some other options too, but HG seems to like formulate and I have no argument against that.

I'm quoting wood's "townies" posting and have a few thoughts. I'm not quite sure how Timbo and GGG got on that list (the others I do agree with).

Timbo was one vote away from Hammer before the Drury save, so obviously most of the town thought he was mafia - not sure how that has changed much here today.

GGG's only affiliation with the town was somehow tracking ECF when targeting puxlut. Since everyone knew ECF was going to poison GGG and claimed doctor, it would be pretty easy for anyone to saw ECF visited GGG and someone else - not much confirmed in my books with that move.

I realize that was wood's personal list, but I'm thinking most of the town is on board with it - just adding in my two cents here.
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Old 10-16-2014, 09:15 PM   #2826
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starseed if I recall correctly MOT and the twilight thread is your idea right? When did you propose this to Mazrim? And if you proposed it prior to alignments was it agreed you would do so under conditions of alignment or let the chips fall where they may? Meaning your or Puxlut would play these roles regardless of alignment.
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Old 10-16-2014, 09:18 PM   #2827
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Timbo was one vote away from Hammer before the Drury save, so obviously most of the town thought he was mafia - not sure how that has changed much here today.
Wrong I was hammered. Are you paying attention here?
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Old 10-16-2014, 09:20 PM   #2828
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Why were you targeting me GGG? I can't remember.
(Funny story: I was just in the Apple store and right in front of me and Ryley, 4 cops and 2 undercover mall cops took down this guy right in front of us!!!! Messed up! The time it took to zip tie him and cart him off was less than 2 minutes! End of funny story)
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Wrong I was hammered. Are you paying attention here?
You are right - forgot Rathji hammered you minutes before the deadline.
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Old 10-16-2014, 09:23 PM   #2830
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Why were you targeting me GGG? I can't remember.
(Funny story: I was just in the Apple store and right in front of me and Ryley, 4 cops and 2 undercover mall cops took down this guy right in front of us!!!! Messed up! The time it took to zip tie him and cart him off was less than 2 minutes! End of funny story)
With my tracking power. You were too quiet so cop, doctor, or scum. Wanted to see what you were up to.

Do you have any powers that cause redirection?
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Old 10-16-2014, 09:26 PM   #2831
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starseed if I recall correctly MOT and the twilight thread is your idea right? When did you propose this to Mazrim? And if you proposed it prior to alignments was it agreed you would do so under conditions of alignment or let the chips fall where they may? Meaning your or Puxlut would play these roles regardless of alignment.
To paraphrase one of my initial pms about it, I asked if I could make a long post when the thread opened to prove I knew about the thread in adance. I told him about the idea of posting up a list of our suspects. I mentioned that we would be anonymous, and wouldnt be able to prove we were aligned with the light.

After the first twilight, I asked him if I had crossed the line, and he essentially said that it was fine, and that since my ability is to cause it to exist, I could technically say I was the master of it anyway.

I do not know what you mean about the prior to alignment thing.
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Old 10-16-2014, 09:28 PM   #2832
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Since Drury's vote post was a bit busy, I tried to condense it a little bit. Starseed and Timbo were the main vote getters, so I filtered out the rest for now as I don't have a ton of time. I feel the rest is mostly noise, but there is likely some additional information in there I bet.

Anyway, here is the voting order for each:

Starseed

1. HG
2. mrkajz
3. Aeneas
4. Oling
5. Wood (came off before 9th vote in this list)
6. Timbo
7. Dissentower
8. Drury
9. Squiggs

Timbo

1. ECF
2. mrkajz
3. starseed
4. Puxlut
5. Aeneas
6. GGG
7. Wood
8. Squiggs
9. Rathji

Unfortunately, I don't see a whole lot in there. It looks like squiggs came in pretty late both times. The crossovers are mrkajz, Aeneas, wood, and squiggs. Can't glean much from Timbo or Starseed's votes for obvious reasons.

I guess my overall feeling is the starseed vote has more scummy characters, while Timbo's seems more townie? That is sort of how I see it at this point. I would be interested to hear others thoughts on this.
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Old 10-16-2014, 09:32 PM   #2833
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Won't be able to check in for a bit, but thought I'd weigh in now.

Starseed has convinced me - I think he is telling the truth and is town. The MOT story is so outrageous I believe it. With all the wild powers going on this game, his story is at the very least plausible. His story has been consistent since the reveal in my eyes. I am doing this all on my phone, so maybe I missed something, but my vote comes off starseed.

Unvote

Timbo has been very aggressive lately and all his posts about hunting scum seem 'fake' to me as Drury pointed out. I'm putting another vote on him and see how he reacts.

Let me be clear though, I don't want this to turn into another reveal. Just want some more discussion from Timbo that isn't accusations and aggressive posts. Information is great for the town, so let's get some more flowing

Vote: Timbo
You were the second person on Starseed, switch off to be the second vote on Timbo.

Your above reasoning for the switch is just parroting what others had already said in the thread.
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Old 10-16-2014, 09:32 PM   #2834
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I'm going to bed, I guess we will revisit this in the morning.
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Old 10-16-2014, 09:34 PM   #2835
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I'm off to bed here soon as well. Up early to last-minute cram for an 8am midterm. Also tomorrow is the day of my rebirth!
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Old 10-16-2014, 09:34 PM   #2836
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I was out tonight.

What a great idea by HG! Great surprise for the mafia. As Puxlut and Aeneas said, mafia are scrambling.
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Old 10-16-2014, 09:35 PM   #2837
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One thing to be careful of is that we need to use HG's power early enough just in case the deadline doesn't get reset along with the rest of the day.
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With my tracking power. You were too quiet so cop, doctor, or scum. Wanted to see what you were up to.

Do you have any powers that cause redirection?
Nope.

That's why I'm so confused. With all the redirects/bounce backs it's hard to see and keep track or make sense of everything. What's the point of everyone having a power if it's just going to get screwed with?
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Old 10-16-2014, 09:37 PM   #2839
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You were the second person on Starseed, switch off to be the second vote on Timbo.

Your above reasoning for the switch is just parroting what others had already said in the thread.
Ya in one of my mega posts I called him a heel nipper.

One of those mutts that don't do anything until the big dog attacks.
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Old 10-16-2014, 09:39 PM   #2840
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So is anyone opposed to Rathji using his kill on formulate, if he agrees, when he gets back?
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