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Old 10-16-2014, 11:01 AM   #2601
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Unless he's mafia. And then if he kills a town, he says "oops! I guess it was tainted" and then laughs all the way to the bank. And we don't think anything of it.
Exactly why starseed telling us that these powers, or at least in his case, worked properly was so vital. Holding back that information so close to a lynch makes no sense.

And if these powers work properly, why didn't the poison work when it got squiggs boost?

My vote is firm now.
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Old 10-16-2014, 11:01 AM   #2602
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How is not knowing that the cult powers work as intended not vital information?!? That's my second biggest question right now, first being who is the mafia.

With 1 vote away from hammer, and assuming for a second you are town and the mafia could have easily shut you up with a hammer (that other people were okay with) you should have revealed that information to us.
That information would not die with me. MOT2 knew immediately after I found out.

The town already knew ECF's power failed, and GGG's worked. The extra support of the knowledge of my action would not have been as important at that time. Maybe later on in the game, but not then. I do not think I made the wrong decision.
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Old 10-16-2014, 11:04 AM   #2603
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I trust that starseed is town, and I have 3 of the 5 people from his list on mine after last night

I'm not positive on timbo, I'm leaving towards him being town

If rathji wants to use his kill today, I propose you kill timbo or one of the other 4 on starseeds list and see if we have something there. We also find out if the power works as intended
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Old 10-16-2014, 11:07 AM   #2604
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Or kill starseed, if he flips town we take his list into consideration
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Old 10-16-2014, 11:10 AM   #2605
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Or kill starseed, if he flips town we take his list into consideration
My invite said it would be unprofessional to use on other guardians.

Not that I trust the invite or even the power anyways.
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Old 10-16-2014, 11:10 AM   #2606
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I trust that starseed is town, and I have 3 of the 5 people from his list on mine after last night

I'm not positive on timbo, I'm leaving towards him being town

If rathji wants to use his kill today, I propose you kill timbo or one of the other 4 on starseeds list and see if we have something there. We also find out if the power works as intended
There will be no hard feelings if rathji day kills me.
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Old 10-16-2014, 11:11 AM   #2607
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But before that, we should consider if we want MOT2 out in the open so that I can confirm.
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Old 10-16-2014, 11:13 AM   #2608
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But before that, we should consider if we want MOT2 out in the open so that I can confirm.
Outing mot2 would be one less hiding spot for the cop. So it's how confident you are that the mafia found him.
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Old 10-16-2014, 11:14 AM   #2609
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I'm not positive on timbo, I'm leaving towards him being town

If rathji wants to use his kill today, I propose you kill timbo or one of the other 4 on starseeds list and see if we have something there. We also find out if the power works as intended
This is twice you've believed Timbo to be town but okay with having him killed there Wood.

Seriously, we are just going to waste someone we think is town because it's the best idea we have right now? That's the best we can come up with?
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Old 10-16-2014, 11:15 AM   #2610
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But before that, we should consider if we want MOT2 out in the open so that I can confirm.
If you think mafia knows outing them would be the best option for sure though
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Old 10-16-2014, 11:16 AM   #2611
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Since we've been so bad at finding mafia so far, our approach must be wrong. We keep looking at posts looking for inconsistencies and generally start to attack often based on little "slip-ups":

-Matt - wifi comment
-RD - associated with wifi comment
-hmmm - defensive posting
-Timbo - change in posting style (not proven town at this point)

So I'm thinking of taking my strategy in a new direction. Who is not posting overly often, generally agrees with the sentiment of the town and doesn't throw out a lot of direct accusations?

-Dissentower
-Formulate

Girly is a bit more aggresive and has direct accusations, but other than that, I think she follows that pattern too. I'm going to go back and review dissentower and formulate and see if my memory is serving me correctly.
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Old 10-16-2014, 11:18 AM   #2612
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Or kill starseed, if he flips town we take his list into consideration
I think enough people this starseed is town at this point (including me) that using a day vig kill on him just to see if he is town is a bad idea. The numbers are not looking good for us now, so killing to "confirm" starseed's alignment, while somewhat useful, doesn't sound like a good idea to me.
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Old 10-16-2014, 11:24 AM   #2613
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Also the fact that the day-kill might not work on other Guardian members is of concern. We don't want to waste a day kill on the off chance the message to Rathji isn't a lie.
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Old 10-16-2014, 11:27 AM   #2614
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OK, kill someone on my list, if it fails, then Lynch me.
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Old 10-16-2014, 11:27 AM   #2615
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OK, kill someone on my list, if it fails, then Lynch me.
Don't do the death pact thing.
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Old 10-16-2014, 11:31 AM   #2616
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Don't do the death pact thing.
If it fails, then I will have pretty much been a disaster for the town anyway. At least there is a lot of behavior to analyze in this train wreck.
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Old 10-16-2014, 11:37 AM   #2617
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If it fails, then I will have pretty much been a disaster for the town anyway. At least there is a lot of behavior to analyze in this train wreck.
I know you think I'm scum but we both know a death pact is a horrible idea, I don't think one has ever worked out.

You told me earlier when I thought Diss had an ok idea about lynching Squiggs that we should be going for the people we most believed to be scum. If the majority of us don't think you're scum then we shouldn't waste a lynch on you if your list doesn't work out. Period.
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Old 10-16-2014, 11:40 AM   #2618
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This is twice you've believed Timbo to be town but okay with having him killed there Wood.

Seriously, we are just going to waste someone we think is town because it's the best idea we have right now? That's the best we can come up with?
I mentioned timbo because starseeds pretty adamant that he thinks timbos mafia, and starseed was very good at guessing the other mafia group in the last game. if others thought timbo was still mafia he would be the best person to test the day kill on. Me and you could both be wrong on timbo, I'm taking the players I trust into consideration, and starseeds pretty much near the top for me (along with you now)

I personally want to Lynch formulate, or have rathji use his kill on him if we think its worth the risk. I have a list of 6 or 7 but he's at the top
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Old 10-16-2014, 11:41 AM   #2619
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I know you think I'm scum but we both know a death pact is a horrible idea, I don't think one has ever worked out.

You told me earlier when I thought Diss had an ok idea about lynching Squiggs that we should be going for the people we most believed to be scum. If the majority of us don't think you're scum then we shouldn't waste a lynch on you if your list doesn't work out. Period.
You are right. Death pacts were not helpful last game.
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Old 10-16-2014, 11:48 AM   #2620
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I personally want to Lynch formulate, or have rathji use his kill on him if we think its worth the risk. I have a list of 6 or 7 but he's at the top
I could throw my support behind this. He's iffy to me. Almost the epitome of "under the radar" because I've caught myself a few times forgetting he was even playing.
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