CP Mafia 3 - Super Smash Mafia - GAME OVER - Darkness Win!

[mrkajz44]

Originally Posted by starseed

That is how I felt with the Oling/Delgar spat. Turned out Delgar was town.

Good call. Forgot about that back and forth. I'll keep that in mind going forward.

[starseed]

Originally Posted by GGG

If it allows the cop to live 1 extra night then it is a wash as it adds one confirmed townie in exchange for one confirmed townie or it's a net loss if the cops last investigation nets a mafia member. Then we are trading a mob member fro a confirmed townie.

However having four confirmed townies alive puts the mob in a tough position to have to choose between cop hunting and killing our doc and other confirmed townies.

With 17 left The mob would know there are 5 non cops out there instead of 4. Plus 5 of them. With 17 left after lynch that means it would change form 1 in 7 chance to 1 in 6 chance. Not much change it odds.

By my count, there are 16 players left. I also assumed 5 mafia. Plus there are the players who have stated that they have a certain ability. They could be lying, but it depends on if the mafia believe them, and that they are telling the truth.

Guardians/Eternals: There have been no more Eternal invites since GP's demise. Is this a good thing or a bad thing?

Twilight thread: if it's gone with starseed's death, is it really going to be useful anyways? Maybe if people watching the game could sign in and help us with info that we may have missed? Is this allowed? Is does go against the spirit of the game, where we should be doing the investigation. But with the "game within a game" (E&G's) and redirects. It's pretty confusing

What is starseed's partner is someone that is quiet? Rathji/Squiggs/Aeneas/HG? And he is the mouth piece?

I think the bickering between people is distracting. I don't see any more theories coming up. People just beating a dead horse over and over.

That post by Drury made me think. Either he is a loser and needs to get a life and trying to help us(to be fair, everytime my husband sees me posting in this thread, he starts laughing at me and making the "L" sign with his hand), or he's the mafia voice (that's alot of info for one person to come up with)

I don't get the cop role. Has he been doing an investigation each night? So when he reveals, he will have a list of names that are good/bad? When he reveals will a schwack of his list be dead (at the rate we're going)?

If we have a redirect (might be a mafia power) they could redirect any kills on the doctor and the doctor saves the cop. Does this work? Or is the wine from last night affecting my thoughts today.

Sorry about the turtle sex.

Originally Posted by starseed

MOT2 has further info explaining what I was going off of when I made my reveal post. MOT2 could just reveal that if they are going to be lynched.

I don't understand this?

[starseed]

Originally Posted by Puxlut

I don't understand this?

I based some thoughts in my reveal post on a spreadsheet. I made some lists from it that MOT2 now has. I don't know if it will be enough proof, though. (and I am assuming it is not against the rules?)

[GGG]

Originally Posted by starseed

By my count, there are 16 players left. I also assumed 5 mafia. Plus there are the players who have stated that they have a certain ability. They could be lying, but it depends on if the mafia believe them, and that they are telling the truth.

I didn't count the already revealed powers like Squiggs so you are right more like 1/4 to 1/3 which is a big difference. I for one will not be making the call today. Others can do the lifting today.

If a wood and ECF are ready to lynch I will cast my vote where they want it at that time.

My preference is to vote out Timbo

With Timbo, No one talks about doing some scum hunting or declaring he's town that much who is actually town. It's essentially UCBs play from game 2. Also in his list of 3 pro and 3 against he doesn't post any rational just names (he was on his phone though) but he never followed up.

He melted down two nights ago when I accused him of being too townie.

And unfortunately I can't get into the conclusions from the questions I was asking Timbo last night as I thought it was boarder line using outside info to prove guilt so I asked Mazrim if I could post it and he sent back this morning that he preferred I didn't so I am dropping any discussion associated with it.

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by Puxlut

Guardians/Eternals: There have been no more Eternal invites since GP's demise. Is this a good thing or a bad thing?

Twilight thread: if it's gone with starseed's death, is it really going to be useful anyways? Maybe if people watching the game could sign in and help us with info that we may have missed? Is this allowed? Is does go against the spirit of the game, where we should be doing the investigation. But with the "game within a game" (E&G's) and redirects. It's pretty confusing

What is starseed's partner is someone that is quiet? Rathji/Squiggs/Aeneas/HG? And he is the mouth piece?

I think the bickering between people is distracting. I don't see any more theories coming up. People just beating a dead horse over and over.

That post by Drury made me think. Either he is a loser and needs to get a life and trying to help us(to be fair, everytime my husband sees me posting in this thread, he starts laughing at me and making the "L" sign with his hand), or he's the mafia voice (that's alot of info for one person to come up with)

I don't get the cop role. Has he been doing an investigation each night? So when he reveals, he will have a list of names that are good/bad? When he reveals will a schwack of his list be dead (at the rate we're going)?

If we have a redirect (might be a mafia power) they could redirect any kills on the doctor and the doctor saves the cop. Does this work? Or is the wine from last night affecting my thoughts today.

Sorry about the turtle sex.

I am not his Mason partner.

He claims that his partner is the cop, and if you recall I had my ability redirected the first night to GP_Matt.

If that was the case, I would have known he was town, which I had no idea.

[starseed]

Originally Posted by Rathji

I am not his Mason partner.

He claims that his partner is the cop, and if you recall I had my ability redirected the first night to GP_Matt.

If that was the case, I would have known he was town, which I had no idea.

What? My mason partner is not the cop.

[Rathji]

Oh, then I have totally misunderstood something.

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by starseed

The cop needs more time, I would assume. If we out MOT2, then that is one less person to hide amongst.

I will go over the numbers.

Just realized I totally misread this post.

Disregard the cop thing, not relevant

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Rathji

I am not his Mason partner.

He claims that his partner is the cop, and if you recall I had my ability redirected the first night to GP_Matt.

If that was the case, I would have known he was town, which I had no idea.

Starseed didn't say his partner was the cop. He said if he outs his partner there will less places for the cop to hide.

I am confused by the second statement. It's sounds like you target someone and get the resuts that they get? But that still doesn't explain how you know who his partner is.

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by Rathji

Just realized I totally misread this post.

Disregard the cop thing, not relevant

I mean not relevant to starseed

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by GGG

Starseed didn't say his partner was the cop. He said if he outs his partner there will less places for the cop to hide.

I am confused by the second statement. It's sounds like you target someone and get the resuts that they get? But that still doesn't explain how you know who his partner is.

I know his partner isn't me. That's all I know.

I thought I was easily able to prove that I wasn't his partner, but turns out I misunderstood the post I just quoted.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Rathji

I know his partner isn't me. That's all I know.

I thought I was easily able to prove that I wasn't his partner, but turns out I misunderstood the post I just quoted.

Why would you want to prove you weren't his partner? That doesn't really help anyone?

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by GGG

Why would you want to prove you weren't his partner? That doesn't really help anyone?

Just going with the full disclosure thing I have been doing all game.

Now that you bring it up, I agree there isn't really any point to it.

I think he was saying that if he was starseeds partner (which he mistakenly thought was a cop) then if he was SS's partner, he would have had investigated GP (even by re-direction).

Is this right Rathji?

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by Puxlut

I think he was saying that if he was starseeds partner (which he mistakenly thought was a cop) then if he was SS's partner, he would have had investigated GP (even by re-direction).

Is this right Rathji?

Right

You're still on my radar. You low poster, you.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by squiggs96

So all people on here are telling the truth at all times? No mafia have tried deflecting a little inquisition on another mafia member to save their team when they get accused later? Pika needs you to give your head a shake.

lol, you are new to this game arn't you? My vote put starseed in the position to be hammered with one more vote. Do you think I would do that if we were both mafia? And why would I put the spotlight on another? If you are town you sure are playing this game really bad.

[formulate]

Originally Posted by Rathji

Thought about this all day, and I have decided we need to give starseed s chance to prove what he is claiming. For that reason I am inclined to believe him.

Originally Posted by GGG

Breaking down the Starseed scenarios



If he is town and MOT and telling the truth, just before we lynch his mason buddy will come out and defend him. There is no way the mafia could afford to lose two members on one original claim. So if we pursue the vote on Starseed we know we either lynch scum or reveal 2 known townies who both validate themselves in the MOT thread.

The issue with these plans is (I believe Oling touched on it right after but these are the quotes I had added to multi quote scrolling through on my phone) that it would be really easy for another mafia member to come forward as starseed's 'mason partner'. I disagree with GGG in saying that the mafia wouldn't risk outing a second member. It seems to me it would be a great way to at least buy some time or, best case, have the town (proven to be possible by your theory) take them as known townies. When twilight comes, there is starseed proving he is the MOT, but for me and many others, not proving anything about being a townie.