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[starseed]

Taking a quick look at voting patterns from day one that seem oddballs.

Oling-
Late to the squiggs train, jump on while it is rolling
Jumps off squiggs when bizarro train is rolling, and jumps on
Gets called out by GGG
Votes again a day and a half later to jump back to squiggs
Votes to get the RD train rolling. Wasn't first, but it did unleash the RD train.
Once RD train was rolling to the edge, jumps off and onto GPmatt. All except squiggs are proven town.

I think he was thinking like captain crunch in the last game. Get the agulati train rolling, then jump off to vote for someone else so that the town flip will make you look good.

Plus, Oling has not been accusatory towards me in this game. Stark contrast from last game :P

delgar-
climbs aboard the early squiggs train
jumps off squiggs to support RD movement
jumps off RD when it needed one more to finish
jumps back onto RD to get it going again
was it he that posted the false vote count? possibly to invite another vote to prevent the RD reveal?

They are my #1 and #2. A squiggs town flip would make both look worse in my eyes.

Oling is more active and harder to spell the full name, so I am going to vote for Delgar right now.

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Vote: Delgar

[Kjesse]

Decent analysis star seed, except you didn't mention that I was against lynching go matt.

[starseed]

Originally Posted by Delgar

Decent analysis star seed, except you didn't mention that I was against lynching go matt.

In day 2 you mean? For all I know, that could be because hmmcamcam could be town, and was next on the list, and that the town was dead set on killing GP. I know I was getting to that point with GP. Plus, it would get ECF to waste the poison.

[Wood]

The thing with those 2 is only 1 can be mafia, the way they've attacked each other, and they style they've done it in makes me think there's no way they're planning that

I do think one or the other may be mafia though. I keep flipping between the two

[starseed]

Originally Posted by Wood

The thing with those 2 is only 1 can be mafia, the way they've attacked each other, and they style they've done it in makes me think there's no way they're planning that

I do think one or the other may be mafia though. I keep flipping between the two

Why do you think they are separate? I admit to skimming much of the bickering. It seemed to me like it could very well be a contrived attempt to distance themselves from each other. No one is going to take the bowser vote thing too seriously, Oling overdid it, Delgar overdid the reaction. It could very well have been coordinated from my vantage point.

I will look it over again.

[Wood]

Originally Posted by starseed

Why do you think they are separate? I admit to skimming much of the bickering. It seemed to me like it could very well be a contrived attempt to distance themselves from each other. No one is going to take the bowser vote thing too seriously, Oling overdid it, Delgar overdid the reaction. It could very well have been coordinated from my vantage point.

I will look it over again.

You could be right, it was way over the top I thought. It was almost childish. Also neither would probably be on anyone's radar if they didn't make so much pointless noise together

[Timbo]

Originally Posted by starseed

Why do you think they are separate? I admit to skimming much of the bickering. It seemed to me like it could very well be a contrived attempt to distance themselves from each other. No one is going to take the bowser vote thing too seriously, Oling overdid it, Delgar overdid the reaction. It could very well have been coordinated from my vantage point.

I will look it over again.

I said just as much a few posts ago yet it seemed to be ignored.

[dissentowner]

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[starseed]

Originally Posted by Timbo

I said just as much a few posts ago yet it seemed to be ignored.

So you did, and GGG followed up with it. I have been busy lately, and should be hitting the books right now. I may be skimming at certain points of the day.

There is a lot of noise. I dont know if they are linked, or legitimately separate. So, I have a gut feeling, and it is supported by the raw data from the early votes. I am sticking with my top 2.

[mrkajz44]

For people unvoting and voting, it would be more helpful and eaiser to track if you mention who you are unvoting. I know Maz doesn't need this, but it's just easier for us to track when the last vote count was pages and pages ago.

I would also say writing something along with your unvote is something I would encourage everyone to do. The more information on your thought process only helps us going forward.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by starseed

Taking a quick look at voting patterns from day one that seem oddballs.

Oling-
Late to the squiggs train, jump on while it is rolling
Jumps off squiggs when bizarro train is rolling, and jumps on
Gets called out by GGG
Votes again a day and a half later to jump back to squiggs
Votes to get the RD train rolling. Wasn't first, but it did unleash the RD train.
Once RD train was rolling to the edge, jumps off and onto GPmatt. All except squiggs are proven town

Uh, I think I'm being misrepresented a bit here, but you're not wrong. I still stand by my decisions day 1. Based on inactivity and then GP_Matt saying he was in a group that was neither good or bad.

I think if anything you should be picking out me going after mrkazj44. I think that's my biggest mistake as I was operating under the assumption GP_Matt was mafia and putting (or trying to put) an unneeded target on his back. If mrkazj44 is town, I ####ed up.

In my defense, I didn't try to go for East Coast Flame or hmmhmmcamo. If they end up mafia I should be lynched for just being terrible (intentionally or accidentally) but it's a lot more than others have done. Easy to just vote once with the majority and then not have to do anything for the rest of the day.

Originally Posted by starseed

Plus, Oling has not been accusatory towards me in this game. Stark contrast from last game :P=

Last game you were also mafia, this time I think you're town...

[formulate]

What are you thinking, Wood? If you can East Coast Flame can agree on something, having 2 all-but-confirmed townies would mean an untainted opinion.

[GGG]

How is ecf a confirmed townie. She claimed doctor an excellent scum claim.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by GGG

How is ecf a confirmed townie. She claimed doctor an excellent scum claim.

I agree, probable townie but definitely not confirmed.

[Wood]

Hmmhmmcamo and squiggs are the easy lynch for me, simply based on inactivity and not hunting for scum. If you're not helping the town, you're hurting it. I had Baxter in with them too but I want to give Aeneas a chance to contribute

I agree with starseed on the oling/delgar theory. I Had delgar on my mafia list earlier. I had oling on my town list because I agreed with him on the people he was pressuring (Matt and delgar) but I've been flipping between his and delgars side recently. I'm not really comfortable lynching either yet, but they're both making a lot of noise

I think Girlysports would be the most impactful lynch, I've had a guy feeling she's mafia since the beginning but haven't had enough evidence to go after her too hard. Starseed has had her back all game, and I trust him so far, but if girly flipped mafia I think he'd need to be a target. I'd vote girly for sure

I'm leaning towards GGG being mafia

Don't have much else for targets really. If I was to post a revamped townie list, I'd have Dissentowner, ECF and timbo as the only ones I really trust. If girly flipped town I'd put starseed in there too

[formulate]

Originally Posted by GGG

How is ecf a confirmed townie. She claimed doctor an excellent scum claim.

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I agree, probable townie but definitely not confirmed.

Fair enough, I believe it to be true, but as of right now it's only Wood.

[Wood]

Originally Posted by formulate

What are you thinking, Wood? If you can East Coast Flame can agree on something, having 2 all-but-confirmed townies would mean an untainted opinion.

Oh, and I find a comment like this to be very mafia like. I wouldn't call ECF a confirmed townie. I read this as a guy trying to let others make the decision so he doesn't have to get his hands dirty, and doesn't need to make any sort of suspicious vote. it's too early in the game to trust anyone's word, confirmed townie or not. I don't think my suspicions should be taken as the bible, nor should anyones

If I'm correct Formulate has been near the bottom of the posters I think, and has been near the top of the voters (I may be wrong, I'll go back and find drurys list) Take that for what it's worth

[Kjesse]

I didn't particularly care for starseed's analysis (probably because I'm in it!) but figured there has to be a way to see who tends to vote against known town, so far. So I compiled this list. I haven't analysed it yet:

Known Town: RD, devo, bizaro, GP Matt
Vote count 1, post 61: no votes on town
Vote count 2, post 153: against bizaro – mrkajz, GP Matt, OR, Baxter, formulate, devo, GS
Vote count 3, post 194: against bizaro-- GP Matt, OR, Baxter, GS
Vote count 4, post 231: against bizaro-- GP Matt, OR, Baxter, GS
Vote count 5, post 318: against GP Matt -- GGG, squiggs, Baxter, bizaro
against bizaro: GP Matt, GS
Vote count 6, post 403: against GP Matt – GGG, squiggs, Baxter, bizaro, devo, rathji, mrkajz, Timbo, ECF, dissentower, Drury
Against Bizaro: GP_Matt, GS
Vote count 7, post 472: against RD: Puxlut, OR, Wood, Formulate, Delgar, ECF, GP Matt, Baxter, dissentower, hmmhmmcamo, mrkajz
Against GP Matt—GGG, squiggs, bizaro, devo, rathji, Drury
Against Bizaro: GS
Vote count 8, post 616: against RD: Puxlut, formulate, GP Matt, Baxter, dissentower, mrkajz, devo, wood, ECF, hmmhmm, Delgar, GS (hammer)
Against GP Matt: GGG, squiggs, bizaro, rathji, drury, OR, starseed
Vote count8, post 947: Against GP Matt: GS, ECF, squiggs, OR, dissentower
Vote count 9, post 999: Against GP Matt: GS, ECF, OR
Vote count 10, post 1156: Against GP Matt – GS, ECF, OR, squiggs, dissentower, hmmhmm
Vote count 11, post 1267: Against GP Matt – GS, OR, squiggs, dissentower, hmmhmmcamo, wood
Vote count 12, post 1385: Against GP Matt – OR, squiggs, dissentower, hmmhmm, wood, puxlut, drury

[starseed]

I don't want to attach myself too much to GS, as she is in my top 4-6, but I have the advantage of comparing what she said about the invite and what I had. I would expect that some people would be suspicious, but I just dont see enough to jump on her lynch.

As for hmm and squiggs, I feel like it is mafia driven. Like they are trying to smoke out our roles. Squiggs flip could net some good info, though.

As for GGG, also suspicious, but not sure.

[formulate]

Originally Posted by Wood

Oh, and I find a comment like this to be very mafia like. I wouldn't call ECF a confirmed townie. I read this as a guy trying to let others make the decision so he doesn't have to get his hands dirty, and doesn't need to make any sort of suspicious vote. it's too early in the game to trust anyone's word, confirmed townie or not. I don't think my suspicions should be taken as the bible, nor should anyones.

If I'm correct Formulate has been near the bottom of the posters I think, and has been near the top of the voters (I may be wrong, I'll go back and find drurys list) Take that for what it's worth

Of course, yes. But I don't think it's unmerited to value your opinion higher as I can trust it to be unbiased. I was simply asking for your thoughts. My vote still remains with hmmhmmcamo for reasons I've stated before. Most importantly lack of contribution for the sake of preventing 'noise'; basically the cheapest cop out there is.

As for posting/voting, I believe I was middle/lower for both, not that any small piece of information should take suspicion off me or anyone else.