CP Mafia 3 - Super Smash Mafia - GAME OVER - Darkness Win!

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by Drury18

Stupid question alert:

So there is a lynch despite GP_Matt being killed? People with votes on GP_Matt do still have another vote? Do we have to unvote first?

Sorry, I've had two job interviews today and this is my first chance to read through everything that wasn't just pushed to my phone (which was just GGG's stuff). I'm scrambling to catch up.

GP_Matt's being killed has no impact on the day ending, the current votes, or the lynch situation.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by hmmhmmcamo

I do have a role and night action I can use. I'd like to say I'll contribute more, but I can't seem to wash of this non contributing stench I seemed to be bathed in, even though I have been more involved recently.

Hmmhmm made almost the identical post yesterday. Why today is their traction from some of his voters to change? Nothing about what hmmhmm just said is new. So why the change.

Every time we go to lynch someone they are going to have a story about why they shouldn't be lynched. If they say something relavent fine, re-evaluate but at some point your vote should have some backbone too it.

I agree with the unvoting but if we are going to make it as a town our votes need to have some sticking power. So if you are unvoting hmmhmm please point out what changed between yesterday as we approached lynch and today?

[squiggs96]

Aloha from Kapalua. This is my favourite spot of the three hotels I've been at this trip. Pika will now answer some questions/comments, and you can consider it my death/last alive post if you lynch.

HG15: I didn't want to role reveal but if the vote was going towards me, I have to show I can help the town somehow. I was going to keep it quiet, but dying without at least revealing it wouldn't help at all. Pika can say who he used it in in night one if people want.

Delgar: I'm not lying, but it's nice that you can just pick and choose.

Dissentower: I haven't contributed as much as I'd like, and almost every post I do is the same thing because people like you keep bringing it up. Pika thinks your detective skills here match outside of CP, and thus no one will be surprised when you're wrong on this. I've also not jumped on votes close to lynch. I believe I was the second vote on day 1 against GP, and the only reason I was late on the hmmhmm vote is because I was voting GP when he was killed, lost my vote and the former hmm votes stayed on. If I wanted to lynch here I'd have waited until it was 9 before voting hmmhmm.

Pika still is suspicious of delgar and dissentower, and has voiced this since day 1. I'm not surprised they are leading the charge against me again. If you do kill me you lose my role and you really don't gain any knowledge. Most of Chu's thoughts were discarded as dumb or ignored. When no answers came I role revealed to see if that would garner some answers. It did, but also caused some issues.

Pika is going to hit some balls at Kapalua, snorkel by Black Rock and go for dinner. Whatever you all decide won't bother me, but I'll check in after dinner tonight and see what has happened.

[dissentowner]

Well thanks squigg, you just made me even more confident in my vote with that post.

[formulate]

Originally Posted by Delgar

Neither hmmhmm nor squiggs have contributed much. I'm starting to have my doubts about squiggs however. I'm not sure what to do. Any alternate theories about who is mafia? There have to be 5 or 6 at least.

It's becoming tough to sift through the posts with various theories and accusations. I believe there is a lot to be gained from a couple cardflips. Having more information will make looking back at suspicions and voting history more meaningful. It's still likely around 2-1 that we'll lynch town today, unfortunate as that is. Hopefully the two night kills were a one time thing, or even better, we get some mafia-mafia or mafia-serial killer crossfire.

As for today's lynch, if you guys are uncomfortable with hmmhmmcamo, I don't mind squiggs based on a decent chance of flipping mafia and hopefully good info from a flip. Girlysports is another one I'd support because her posting is hard to nail down and it would also hopefully provide good info.

I'm gonna stick with hmmhmm because I trust him the least, but will jump over to another bandwagon if squiggs or girly gets more support.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by GGG

Hmmhmm made almost the identical post yesterday. Why today is their traction from some of his voters to change? Nothing about what hmmhmm just said is new. So why the change.

Every time we go to lynch someone they are going to have a story about why they shouldn't be lynched. If they say something relavent fine, re-evaluate but at some point your vote should have some backbone too it.

I agree with the unvoting but if we are going to make it as a town our votes need to have some sticking power. So if you are unvoting hmmhmm please point out what changed between yesterday as we approached lynch and today?

Scum will always try and save their bacon, at least that has been my experience. The fact that many m's and h's could have ride the cop card yet admitted he isn't and is not fighting a lynch because it will help the town focus makes me believe he is telling the truth. Squiggs on the other hand lurks around and has this greasy way of posting. We were looking at him before all this other group thing came out. Go back and look at his posts when he has posted, it reeks of scum. Then again I was wrong about Matt so I understand if my thoughts don't carry as much weight now

[Kjesse]

Originally Posted by formulate

I'm gonna stick with hmmhmm because I trust him the least, but will jump over to another bandwagon if squiggs or girly gets more support.

Hmm, sqiggs, GS, each work for me.

[mrkajz44]

The thing I don't get about hmmm is his back is against the wall and all he is really saying is he has a role and a power. This sort of vague posting just makes me not trust him. I know a lynch on hmmm is not 100% at this point, but it sure looks like the most likely option at this current moment. So if hmmm is town, wouldn't he want to devulge a little more information to help us out?

Maybe just a last ditch effort to save himself and keep playing the game, but if hmmm is actually town I'd say his play is not really helping us out.

[Kjesse]

Also, taking our foot off the gas may not be the best thing as GGG has pointed out.... Its not too likely someone pulls a CC and comes out mafia in the face of pressure (though it was a wonderful moment).

[Drury18]

Well I'll just vote and if I have to unvote, I'm sure Mazrim will point that out.

vote: GirlySports

She's #1 on my scum suspect list and she hasn't done much to make me think I need to move her off of it.

She's caused alot of confusion, deflection and wasn't forthcoming with her information about the groups until pressured and even then, some of her info didn't line up. Some of her theories around the groups are also concerning. This was said with some great conviction despite declining an invitation, not asking any follow up questions to the person offering the invite and having limited information from what the other people who accepted had said. And now with GP_Matt turning up light, I think it's even more concerning. He didn't flip scum, he was eternals and I don't see it being a "dark" gift:

Originally Posted by GirlySports

I don't think it's plausible. It's definitely light against dark. If a person joins the Eternals they get dark spells and if a person join the Guardians they get light spells. However, these spells can benefit both sides. Scum can use another kill or can use the save to protect themselves from a killing and townies can do the same kill someone and protect themselves.

I don't trust her. Every time I go back to read her posts, she's just digging a deeper hole and then throwing around accusations to get herself out. I still question the validity of the invite she received as it seemed so coincidental. She's tried to throw a twisted version of something I've said back to make it look like I'm scum or supporting scum to get the spotlight off of her and she's done it with others.

[East Coast Flame]

I feel fine with lynching hmmhmhmhmhmhm and Girly....I don't feel good about lynching Squiggs. I still trust him.

[Hockeyguy15]

I think I will be staying on hmmhmmcamo, he sounds like he has given up to me. Timbo had to coax him along to try and get any information out of him and even then it was minimal.

[GGG]

I am squiggs or girly.

perfer girly

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by Drury18

He didn't flip scum, he was eternals and I don't see it being a "dark" gift:

The more I think about it, if you just a one time kill power to random mafia people, it really, really screws the town over, because then you just start doubling up kills.

Originally Posted by Drury18

I don't trust her. Every time I go back to read her posts, she's just digging a deeper hole and then throwing around accusations to get herself out. I still question the validity of the invite she received as it seemed so coincidental. She's tried to throw a twisted version of something I've said back to make it look like I'm scum or supporting scum to get the spotlight off of her and she's done it with others.

Maybe we should examine this line of thinking. How many invites (claims or real) have people received? accepted?

Seems like things would be balanced, logically.

[GGG]

Ecf you should vote who you want to eliminate we are all getting wishy washy and should put the votes on the table.

[dissentowner]

Well, a few of the posters I am leaning toward town are still good with hmmm so after that mess with Matt and I am more willing to go with your hunch over mine. I will unvote when I get in, on phone and can't figure out bold. Oh, and I agree that girlysports is a good candidate as well

[hmmhmmcamo]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

I think I will be staying on hmmhmmcamo, he sounds like he has given up to me. Timbo had to coax him along to try and get any information out of him and even then it was minimal.

meh, I'm busy at work today but still trying to keep up and contribute what I can.

[Wood]

What's the vote count in hmmhmmcamo?

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by Rathji

The more I think about it, if you just a one time kill power to random mafia people, it really, really screws the town over, because then you just start doubling up kills.

I guess it could have intended to be balanced with the ability the externals gave (bullet proof, or whatever it is)

I have to admit, I have almost tried to block out some of this 'cult' stuff as I have felt it is just causing confusion right now, so maybe I have missed something.

Didnt finish my thought.

[East Coast Flame]

I have 8 for hmhmhmhmh, 2 for Squiggs and 1 for GS

Vote: Girlysports

I'd like to hear her talk