10-07-2014, 11:07 AM
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#41
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
Was it hurt in Penticton I wonder?
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The Penticton thing, IIRC, was lower body groin. Don't know when the upper body thing happen.
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10-07-2014, 11:08 AM
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#42
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
Was it hurt in Penticton I wonder?
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The quote the other day said he got the upper body injury in Vancouver, and after the Winnipeg game realized it was serious.
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10-07-2014, 11:08 AM
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#43
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Franchise Player
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Sucky news, but hopefully he recovers fully and can come back to dominate when he's ready. Recovery at his young age is better then someone in their later years trying to come back from an injury like that. I'm not going to pretend I know how it happened, but hopefully this motivates him to bulk up before he's ready to play in the NHL so something like this doesn't happen again.
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10-07-2014, 11:09 AM
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#44
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
Was it hurt in Penticton I wonder?
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I'm pretty sure he had a couple shoulder injuries in junior last year that he was highly regarded for playing through. He had trouble doing pull ups likely due to that injury that hadn't fully healed. My suspicion is he has never fully recovered and it's been made worse with the pre-season play against men.
I would really like him to just bite the bullet, get the surgery, and rehab fully while he's still young and malleable. Then go hard and get ready for camp next year. He could be available for the second half of the junior season if he does it soon.
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10-07-2014, 11:10 AM
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#45
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First Line Centre
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Too small! Not ready to play against men! Awful medical care! Blahblahblah.....
Hope he fully recovers and his career isn't derailed before it starts, regardless of what sweater he wears.
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10-07-2014, 11:10 AM
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#46
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Huntingwhale
Sucky news, but hopefully he recovers fully and can come back to dominate when he's ready. Recovery at his young age is better then someone in their later years trying to come back from an injury like that. I'm not going to pretend I know how it happened, but hopefully this motivates him to bulk up before he's ready to play in the NHL so something like this doesn't happen again.
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Let's be clear here that "bulking up" is not any sort of reliable method for injury prevention.
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10-07-2014, 11:11 AM
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#47
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Considering that he won't be able to play or do upper body strength training for quite some time, I hope he comes back next year with legs like tree trunks.
edit: Since this happened before he was technically cut, does that means he makes his NHL salary this year?
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10-07-2014, 11:11 AM
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#48
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Franchise Player
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If he doesn't need surgery, will he still miss the WJC? Sounds like thats what Bob is saying but wouldn't rehab be a month or two?
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10-07-2014, 11:11 AM
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#49
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fan in Exile
Easy target on the pull-up jokes but as someone who has struggled with a torn rotator-cuff without surgery and through rehab that lets me sometimes feel good and sometimes have no strength, that could be a legitimate reason for the zero pull-ups at the combine.
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Ditto. Shoulders are tricky, so hopefully he gets it sorted out and doesnt struggle with it on and off for his whole career.
We'll keep Dr. Krieger as Plan B...
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10-07-2014, 11:11 AM
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#50
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Calgary
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Did not see that coming. Hopefully he recovers fully and is able to get back on track by the end of the season and be ready for next years training camp!!
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10-07-2014, 11:12 AM
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#51
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Franchise Player
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This really sucks. For once I was actually looking forward to the World Juniors.
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10-07-2014, 11:12 AM
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#52
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by albertGQ
If he doesn't need surgery, will he still miss the WJC? Sounds like thats what Bob is saying but wouldn't rehab be a month or two?
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I'm guessing the Flames wouldnt release him if hes just coming off a serious injury.
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10-07-2014, 11:12 AM
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#53
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In the Sin Bin
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As soon as McKenzie said the recovery timeframe was "months", any chance at the WJC were gone. Hopefully he can be healthy in the new year and return to Kingston for the back half of the season.
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10-07-2014, 11:14 AM
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#54
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Since this happened before he was technically cut, does that means he makes his NHL salary this year?
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I was wondering this too? How will IR work for him, salary wise? Also what does this mean for his ELC and sliding?
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10-07-2014, 11:15 AM
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#55
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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^
In the event that his own development is set back a year because of this, the silver lining here might be that he will still be eligible for the WJC next year.
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10-07-2014, 11:15 AM
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#56
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Underground
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
yes the teams are allowed to do full medical testing
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Along that line, can he remain on Flames IR and get the surgery and do his rehab while under the eye of the Flames medical staff?
I may be wrongly assuming that if he gets cut, then he's junior property again so I was unsure how proactive / involved the Flames are allowed to be.
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10-07-2014, 11:16 AM
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#57
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Franchise Player
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Same issues RNH had perhaps?
He had the surgery and is better than ever now apparently.
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10-07-2014, 11:17 AM
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#58
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
Let's be clear here that "bulking up" is not any sort of reliable method for injury prevention.
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No, but at 180lbs and with his style of balls to the wall play, that's just asking for injury trouble against full sized NHL players at that size. Getting bigger can only benefit him.
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10-07-2014, 11:17 AM
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#59
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Franchise Player
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So is he playing tomorrow?
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10-07-2014, 11:17 AM
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#60
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Lethbridge
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Dammit!!!
That sucks.
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