10-06-2014, 07:52 PM
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#42
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Jan 2014
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Originally Posted by gilligans_off
Maybe with this signing, people will stop thinking the flames are tanking.
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I think that with this signing we're a shoe-in to finish in the mid to low 20s. 
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10-06-2014, 07:57 PM
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#43
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Djibouti
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Engelland says hi
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People "saying hi" has to be one of the worse message board memes going.
Engelland is big, but he hasn't show me to be a guy who is really dependable as a shut-down guy yet.
So, how many defensemen on the team would you describe as shut-down defensemen?
Wideman and Russell, definitely not.
Brodie is taking leaps offensively, and he's no defensive liability, but he lacks a real edge physically and I wouldn't say his defensive game is a strength.
Smid's game is to be a physical shut-down defenseman, and he's a 4-5 in that regard, and Giordano has a very good all around game.
So, IMO, you have two guys who can be counted on as really reliable in the defensive zone. Adding another should have been a much bigger priority than adding a Wideman clone.
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10-06-2014, 08:01 PM
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#44
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Field near Field, AB
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I like the term of the contract. This time next year we can move on from this junk.
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10-06-2014, 08:03 PM
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#45
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Franchise Player
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He is a replacement for Derrek Smith ... one that Hartley likes.... Sort of like Begin in Hartley year #1. He will have about the same impact as Smith and Begin.
We could get rid of Wideman because of Diaz in the same way we were able to trade Iginla because we had Begin.
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10-06-2014, 08:15 PM
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#46
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by ricardodw
He is a replacement for Derrek Smith ... one that Hartley likes.... Sort of like Begin in Hartley year #1. He will have about the same impact as Smith and Begin.
We could get rid of Wideman because of Diaz in the same way we were able to trade Iginla because we had Begin.
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Except Wideman isn't Iginla, Diaz isn't Begin, and we did get rid of Iginla once we got Begin...
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10-06-2014, 08:21 PM
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#47
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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I am alright with this.
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10-06-2014, 08:21 PM
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#48
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Ontario
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Nice!
Really like Diaz. I work with 2 Habs fans and they echo'd the suicide pass tendency of Diaz, but they loved him otherwise. Suicide passes seems to be a very very easy thing to coach out of him, so this is a great add to our lacking D.
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10-06-2014, 08:29 PM
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#49
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Cambodia
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I'm ok with the signing, but I almost wish it had been for a lot more money so that we could have dealt with the forward logjam without worrying about the cap floor.
And before someone else says it, yes, I realize that people would have also complained about the ridiculous contract if we'd signed him to a $3M deal.
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10-06-2014, 08:57 PM
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#50
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Mike F
People "saying hi" has to be one of the worse message board memes going.
Engelland is big, but he hasn't show me to be a guy who is really dependable as a shut-down guy yet.
So, how many defensemen on the team would you describe as shut-down defensemen?
Wideman and Russell, definitely not.
Brodie is taking leaps offensively, and he's no defensive liability, but he lacks a real edge physically and I wouldn't say his defensive game is a strength.
Smid's game is to be a physical shut-down defenseman, and he's a 4-5 in that regard, and Giordano has a very good all around game.
So, IMO, you have two guys who can be counted on as really reliable in the defensive zone. Adding another should have been a much bigger priority than adding a Wideman clone.
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You were talking about a #7 Dman.
Maybe you're expectations have gotten a little high for that role
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10-06-2014, 08:59 PM
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#51
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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Originally Posted by SirPsychoSexy
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Great. Now i will be cringing every time diaz tries to spring gaudreau. Why you have to do that?!
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10-06-2014, 09:01 PM
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#52
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Franchise Player
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Meh - 7th D to fill-in for injuries. As long as he doesn't throw up those suicide passes, not much to complain about at all. Personally would have preferred Brookbank as he was a steadier presence on D, and apparently a great locker-room presence (which as a 7th D, is adding something), but I guess the Flames wanted someone a bit more dynamic.
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10-06-2014, 09:04 PM
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#53
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: A small painted room
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Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe
Meh - 7th D to fill-in for injuries. As long as he doesn't throw up those suicide passes, not much to complain about at all. Personally would have preferred Brookbank as he was a steadier presence on D, and apparently a great locker-room presence (which as a 7th D, is adding something), but I guess the Flames wanted someone a bit more dynamic.
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I dunno. We have engellend and smid. That's enough rock imo
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10-06-2014, 09:07 PM
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#54
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Franchise Player
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Not really a fan, but good on him for securing an NHL job.
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10-06-2014, 09:11 PM
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#55
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Good signing. I think there stands a chance that he could have some value at the trade deadline.
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He'll have the same value as Butler during the last trade deadline.
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10-06-2014, 09:26 PM
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#56
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Fire
He'll have the same value as Butler during the last trade deadline.
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Can we stop using the "B Word" now that he is gone. I am trying to forget. Don't use drugs so alcohol it is. Its not working.
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10-06-2014, 09:44 PM
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#57
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Franchise Player
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I watched 3 pre season games in which Diaz played. I thought he looked pretty good in two of them. And not so good in the other.
But honestly, I think I prefer him over Wideman. I'm hoping Wideman gets bumped out by someone this season. Diaz, Sieloff or Wotherspoon.
He's one of the guys on the team that I think does not earn his paycheck. I can not believe we're paying him $5.25 million for the next 3 seasons.
Jones is the other.
Last edited by Goriders; 10-06-2014 at 09:47 PM.
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10-06-2014, 09:51 PM
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#58
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Fire
He'll have the same value as Butler during the last trade deadline.
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We don't know what Butler's value was at the trade deadline.
Diaz was also traded for a 5th last year, so its not out of the question that he could have value at the deadline.
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10-06-2014, 10:09 PM
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#59
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First Line Centre
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Diaz is a solid NHL defenseman.
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10-06-2014, 10:11 PM
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#60
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Franchise Player
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Diaz earned a spot...competition is not a bad thing
some of you think young guys should just be handed jobs
its also comical how young most of our "old guys" are
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