CP Mafia 3 - Super Smash Mafia - GAME OVER - Darkness Win!

[mrkajz44]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

mrkajz44 any further information on this?

Now that we know you and girlysports were offered (or you are claiming to have been offered) a one-night save this has a lot more credence. It does seem Guardians are trying to protect. So what do the leader of the Guardians know that makes him not trust the Eternals?

Assuming you and girlysports can be believed at all.

EDIT - changed per Mazrim's request to not directly quote outside messages.

This is what my message said to me (in my own words):

The Guardians asked that I not share the details of their message to me. I can say that the Guardians claim to protect, while we are not to trust The Eternals.

That's all that was provided to me about the Eternals, nothing more in the message talked about the Eternals. As for the "seek to protect" part, it seems to be linked to the one-time save as that would "protect" me if I had used it. But, no other protection was provided for me or the town past the one-time save.

[formulate]

I believe the only information we can gain regarding groups is the powers Matt and starseed received. Any other discussion about them is speculation and conspiracy theories and IMO they are not currently helping us.

If you want to press one of them to a reveal or lynch for information purposes, I can see the merit. But for now, I'm not seeing how discussing potential scenarios until the cows come home rather than scum hunting is helpful.

[GP_Matt]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

I'm just answering a question of what I think is going on. mrkajz44 and I both declined a one night save. ECF has poison. You won't tell us what you have but you have something. And Starseed has something but doesn't want to disclose because it'll help the town. Is it farfetched that I think the Guardians offer saves and the Eternals offer kills?

It isn't far fetched to think it. It is far fetched to know it without extra information. You stated it as fact instead of theory and that scares me. What do you know that we don't. Did another mafia member receive an invite that you know about and we don't?

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by formulate

I believe the only information we can gain regarding groups is the powers Matt and starseed received. Any other discussion about them is speculation and conspiracy theories and IMO they are not currently helping us.

If you want to press one of them to a reveal or lynch for information purposes, I can see the merit. But for now, I'm not seeing how discussing potential scenarios until the cows come home rather than scum hunting is helpful.

This is kind of how I'm thinking now. What if the Guardians and Eternals are just a ploy by mafia to get one group of people against the other? This might just be a single mafia ability to cause as much issues as possible. If that's the case, it's working.

[East Coast Flame]

The Eternals message said nothing about the Guardians. Not sure what you want to take from that.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Just realizee the irony in my reply to formulate. I came up with a conspiracy theory in response to his talking about conspiracy theories, but my point is at this time the groups could be any possibility of things.

Until more information is to go on, I'm going to lower my 'interest' in them.

[Timbo]

Something's been gnawing at me. It's GP_Matts phantom vote.
What if because GP_Matt is mafia he received a penalty vote because of that affiliation.
ECF did not because he is townie
Star seed did not because he is townie
Girly declined because she is mafia and knows about that Penalty
Mrkaj44 declined for similar reasons.
Crazy thought?
That vote in itself is an anomaly to give concern

[Wood]

I think we should wait until day 3 and see if we learn anything new about the groups. We're just going in circles with this and not getting anywhere

I think we should lulynch based on inactivity today. Squiggs, hmmhmmcamo and Baxter are who I want yo Lynch

So do we make hmmhmmcamo reveal? Or flip to someone else?!

Or do we go with something other than inactivity?

[squiggs96]

Possible mafia:
1) GP_Matt - pika feels this is one we need to find out immediately and I've been in favour of this for a long time. It should also tell us a lot about ECF

2) star seed- Didn't hammer GP when given the chance

3) delgar - suspicious of him on first day. Pika hasn't seen much to be suspicious of lately, but it's still stuck in my mind

Suspected town:
1) ECF - I keep flipping on her role but I believe her current story. Does she still get to use her kill and/or night action if the mafia kill her tonight? Pika wonders if she needs a protector to let her complete her night action
2) drury18 - hasn't done anything I'm suspicious of
3) formulate - consistently thoughtful posting

chu is wondering when the cults ask you not to disclose, is that a rule or is that merely a request?

[East Coast Flame]

I just re-read the message from the eternals and realized something. I was thinking about the 1 vote that started the day off against Matt and thought it might have been because he joined or that he used his ability. I have been pretty certain that he used his gift last night and thats why he had a vote already againsth him.

It stated membership is free, there are no strings attached for accepting the gift.

I am willing to bet that one vote against GP_Matt was someone using a night ability to start him off with one vote against him. Perhaps this has to do with the Rathji re-direct?

Unvote

I still have a bad feeling about GP_Matt, but I want to see if this goes anywhere

[East Coast Flame]

Originally Posted by Timbo

Something's been gnawing at me. It's GP_Matts phantom vote.
What if because GP_Matt is mafia he received a penalty vote because of that affiliation.
ECF did not because he is townie
Star seed did not because he is townie
Girly declined because she is mafia and knows about that Penalty
Mrkaj44 declined for similar reasons.
Crazy thought?
That vote in itself is an anomaly to give concern

Lol, good timing

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Wood

I think we should wait until day 3 and see if we learn anything new about the groups. We're just going in circles with this and not getting anywhere

I think we should lulynch based on inactivity today. Squiggs, hmmhmmcamo and Baxter are who I want yo Lynch

So do we make hmmhmmcamo reveal? Or flip to someone else?!

Or do we go with something other than inactivity?

There's a possibility this might be my last chance to respond for awhile.

So, anyone of those three are fine with me but my vote is secured with GP_Matt for today. I think his reveal will tell us the most even removing the Eternals stuff. If GP_Matt reveals mafia we need to go hard for mrkajz44 (or the inverse where he is town I will lay off mrkajz44). If he's mafia we also can't take a look a closer look at all the others who pressured for the early hammer as well.

[formulate]

Haha Oling I wasn't going to say anything. It's hard not to let you mind go wild, just because it's something we haven't seen before.

Timbo, Matt didn't get his until the day after he joined. If by tomorrow (assuming Matt lives) ECF doesn't have a phantom vote, I'll agree with you as something we have nearly concrete evidence of.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

There's a possibility this might be my last chance to respond for awhile.

So, anyone of those three are fine with me but my vote is secured with GP_Matt for today. I think his reveal will tell us the most even removing the Eternals stuff. If GP_Matt reveals mafia we need to go hard for mrkajz44 (or the inverse where he is town I will lay off mrkajz44). If he's mafia we also can't take a look a closer look at all the others who pressured for the early hammer as well.

Last sentence should "if he's mafia we also can take..

[mrkajz44]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

There's a possibility this might be my last chance to respond for awhile.

So, anyone of those three are fine with me but my vote is secured with GP_Matt for today. I think his reveal will tell us the most even removing the Eternals stuff. If GP_Matt reveals mafia we need to go hard for mrkajz44 (or the inverse where he is town I will lay off mrkajz44). If he's mafia we also can't take a look a closer look at all the others who pressured for the early hammer as well.

I know you've been suspicious of me Oiling, but I'm at a loss for why I'm tied up with Matt? Is it becuase I was one of four people who supported the hammer for RD and not Matt? I thought I expalined myself on that one, just getting caught up in the excitement that afternoon. Four people supported hammer before it was dropped on RD, while there was no hammer support for Matt - so just curious why I'm the only one associated with it. Seems odd.

[squiggs96]

Pika would be willing to switch my vote to hmmm if ECF was going to use her night kill on GP.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Timbo

Something's been gnawing at me. It's GP_Matts phantom vote.
What if because GP_Matt is mafia he received a penalty vote because of that affiliation.
ECF did not because he is townie
Star seed did not because he is townie
Girly declined because she is mafia and knows about that Penalty
Mrkaj44 declined for similar reasons.
Crazy thought?
That vote in itself is an anomaly to give concern

Interesting theory, the only issue I see with this is that you would have 3 out of how many mafia on there? It seems like that would be an unfair advantage in their favour, especially if you gain a night kill/night protection from joining. I doubt Mazrim would organize something that could be that lopsided?

My vote will go to squiggs, GP or hmmm... I just have to get home to re read some stuff. I think the only new info we will get is with the flip. I can always hope for a slip from the scum...

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by squiggs96

Pika would be willing to switch my vote to hmmm if ECF was going to use her night kill on GP.

ECF is a guy by the way.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by mrkajz44

I know you've been suspicious of me Oiling, but I'm at a loss for why I'm tied up with Matt? Is it becuase I was one of four people who supported the hammer for RD and not Matt? I thought I expalined myself on that one, just getting caught up in the excitement that afternoon. Four people supported hammer before it was dropped on RD, while there was no hammer support for Matt - so just curious why I'm the only one associated with it. Seems odd.

Sorry not a lot of time and I will have to rush my response

But it was the way you went from, (paraphrasing here from my perspective on things), "let's give GP_Matt time to post, we don't have to worry about a no lynch" to "we need to hammer RatherDashing right now to prevent a no lynch." Very stark contrast.

If you wanted to give a mafia member time to talk but wanted a quick hammer on our role cop you should be suspicious for it. That's if GP_Matt is not town, then I can believe your story and will drop it.