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Old 09-29-2014, 11:32 AM   #41
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Damn, I was really hoping for Cundari to make it this year.
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Old 09-29-2014, 11:41 AM   #42
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wasn't Jonathon Blum at one point considered a really good prospect? One of those players who have never been able to make the jump from AHL to NHL, I guess.
Had a solid playoff run with Nashville in 2011 as a 22 year old. Was 23rd pick overall in 2007 .... one pick before Backlund
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Is Jonathan Blum the one who was in Nashville? I always thought he was a good defender.
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Old 09-29-2014, 11:46 AM   #44
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The team that loses the player has first rights to reclaim the player then it goes by standings.
Not exactly. If a player is claimed off waivers, then the claiming team later puts him on waivers, he still has to clear normal waivers and the waiver priority is the same as it would be for any other waived player.

The only benefit the original team has is if they are the only team who puts in a claim when the player is waived a second (or third, or fourth, etc) time. If the original team is the only team to make a claim on the player, they are able to send him to the AHL without putting him on waivers again.

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Is Jonathan Blum the one who was in Nashville? I always thought he was a good defender.
Yeah Nashville didn't qualify him last year so he hit UFA. Basically the same treatment Del Zotto got.

This is the 2nd year in a row that Blum has hit waivers.
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Old 09-29-2014, 12:02 PM   #46
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Damn, I was really hoping for Cundari to make it this year.
He has some very poor defensive decision making and was quite a liability out there in his last preseason game here. I think that this year is the end of the road for him in the Flames org.
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Maybe the Oilers will pick up Chris Butler (fingers crossed).
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He has some very poor defensive decision making and was quite a liability out there in his last preseason game here. I think that this year is the end of the road for him in the Flames org.
Sorry dude, you either did not watch his games or have unreliable sources. He had one period where some of his play was questionable. The rest of his time was solid. Word out camp this morning was that he was just fine but the farm is where they need him to be right now. It was supposed to be the end of the road for him last year, do you not remember? Time to change your crystal ball!!
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I think it is still too early for the Flames to claim anyone. The best prospects are still in camp, and I much rather have the 4th pick instead of the 29th pick when it comes to waivers.
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I think it is still too early for the Flames to claim anyone. The best prospects are still in camp, and I much rather have the 4th pick instead of the 29th pick when it comes to waivers.
NHL waivers don't work like this. If you claim a player off waivers you don't lose your position or go to the bottom of the list for waiver priority.

Until November waiver priority is based on reverse league standings of the previous year, then it is based on current reverse league standings for the rest of the season.
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I haven't seen much of Elliott in a couple years but I liked him. There has to be a reason he's on waivers but I would like to him him claimed
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NHL waivers don't work like this. If you claim a player off waivers you don't lose your position or go to the bottom of the list for waiver priority.

Until November waiver priority is based on reverse league standings of the previous year, then it is based on current reverse league standings for the rest of the season.
My mistake then! For some reason I was sure it was in use to prevent a low seed team of claiming everyone(up to 50 contracts) and then just waiving them again.
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Old 09-29-2014, 12:47 PM   #53
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Could he be the next!?!?

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wasn't Jonathon Blum at one point considered a really good prospect? One of those players who have never been able to make the jump from AHL to NHL, I guess.
He is probably the only dud on defence Nashville has ever drafted lol.
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Patrick Roy on possibly losing Stefan Elliott: "We're very comfortable w/ our decision ... If he's picked up we'll wish him good luck" #Avs
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Old 09-29-2014, 01:02 PM   #56
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The 2 Alberta teams should be taking a good look at Elliott.
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Old 09-29-2014, 01:06 PM   #57
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The Flames pull be keeping an eye on the wire and taking a hard look at any youngish defenseman. We really need to build up some depth there, quickly.
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It looks like this was perhaps in response to a question of surprise that the Avalanche have deemed him to be expendable. Can anyone provide the context for Roy's statement?
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Sorry dude, you either did not watch his games or have unreliable sources. He had one period where some of his play was questionable. The rest of his time was solid. Word out camp this morning was that he was just fine but the farm is where they need him to be right now. It was supposed to be the end of the road for him last year, do you not remember? Time to change your crystal ball!!
I was there at the Vancouver game, and I counted 17 very poor decisions in the first two periods and I wasn't singling him out for scorn. The only time I noticed him was because of a really bad error. He just kept turning the puck over, not making passes when he should have and was basically a mess.

Of all the D-men I've watched over the past week and a bit, he has been at the very bottom and that includes guys like Gedig and the walkons.

He and Hanowski are the two players that have been the biggest disappointments this camp because they should be a lot better than they have been if they want to make the NHL on more than a injury fill in guy type role.

Realistically, both he and Hanowski should have been among the best prospect D-men and forwards because of their age and experience relative to the rest like Ramage was, and they were not.

Things can change, but the clock is ticking....
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The 2 Alberta teams should be taking a good look at Elliott.
Honestly, if MacTavish has two brain cells to rub together, Elliott doesn't even fall as far as us. Buffalo would be wise to put a claim in as well.
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