Godless Apostate

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As an aside with narwhals it isn't a horn, it's actually a tooth.

[Street Pharmacist]

Stupid place for a tooth

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by MoneyGuy

That there is no God. Unproven.

How can you prove something doesn't exist?

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by GGG

Faith,

Based on all available evidence to date no evidence of unicorns has been shown to exist however given that there are new speicies uncovered regularly a horse like animal with a horn is possible to have existed at some point in our evolutionary history.

Unicorn whales do exist and if currently we had never seen a Nar Whale I would bet your statement around whale unicorns would be that they do not exist. Or pick any other very interesting species that has been recently discovered. Prior to finding them and them being completely unknown did they not exist or did evidence of their existance not exist.

or how about

Life on other planets does not exist

Statement of faith, logic or reason?

Now your statement about an interventionist God requires a lot less faith than not believing a possiblility of a deist God and a lot less faith then believing in either God but when you make an absolute statement it requires faith.

haha

OK, now do the Easter Bunny.

The Easter Bunny does not exist? faith, logic or reason?

also, life on other planets is definitely something that can be talked about in a Scientific context, whereas God, not so much.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Stupid place for a tooth

It's "designed."

By way of analogy, if one were to posit the actual existence of unicorns, then maybe the outgrowth on the head of this mythical beast should also be considered a tooth. What a hoot.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

...also, life on other planets is definitely something that can be talked about in a Scientific context, whereas God, not so much.

Unless "god" is more appropriately defined as a form of stellar or extra terrestrial life? Maybe the Mormons were more right than all of them!

[GGG]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

haha

OK, now do the Easter Bunny.

The Easter Bunny does not exist? faith, logic or reason?

also, life on other planets is definitely something that can be talked about in a Scientific context, whereas God, not so much.

Just because you are a man of faith and don't like it isn't my problem.

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Unless "god" is more appropriately defined as a form of stellar or extra terrestrial life? Maybe the Mormons were more right than all of them!

The way Joseph Smith brought that religion to us sheep, has always been on the top of my list of religions.
Angels, undecipherable golden tablets that can only be read in a bag with a seer stone, by Joseph Smith, Joseph Smith being the only one to ever see them and the golden tablets never being found again.

Such a load of BS, and yet so many people fall for it, I guess there is a void in their life they need filling by whatever means.

[DuffMan]

"When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion, it is called religion."

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by GGG

Just because you are a man of faith and don't like it isn't my problem.

Are you saying my lack of belief in a God is "faith"

[Chill Cosby]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

Are you saying my lack of belief in a God is "faith"

Lack of belief in God and "There is no God" are two different things.

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by Chill Cosby

Lack of belief in God and "There is no God" are two different things.

So my saying "There is no God" comes from my faith?

[GGG]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

So my saying "There is no God" comes from my faith?

Yes, it is a faith based statement, a belief, to state There is no God.

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by GGG

Yes, it is a faith based statement, a belief, to state There is no God.

So, it is a faith based statement, a belief, to state There is no Easter Bunny?

[GGG]

Yes,

you can not prove an absolute statement of a negative.

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by GGG

Yes,

you can not prove an absolute statement of a negative.

Well, I bet xtians sleep better at night, hugging that concept.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

Well, I bet xtians sleep better at night, hugging that concept.

This has nothing to do with wether or not god exists. In fact it doesn't really matter in any of these discussions if god exists or not. It is simple fact that your absolute disbelief of god is a matter of faith.

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by GGG

This has nothing to do with wether or not god exists. In fact it doesn't really matter in any of these discussions if god exists or not. It is simple fact that your absolute disbelief of god is a matter of faith.

and peoples absolute belief of god is a matter of faith

neato.

faith, what can't it do.

[MarchHare]

DuffMan: do you realize that not even Richard Dawkins claims with 100% certainty that there absolutely is no god? You're advocating for a position more extreme than the man who is arguably the most famous atheist in the world.

[Edit]
Relevant quote from wikipedia:

In The God Delusion, Richard Dawkins posits that "the existence of God is a scientific hypothesis like any other." He goes on to propose a continuous "spectrum of probabilities" between two extremes of opposite certainty, which can be represented by seven "milestones". Dawkins suggests definitive statements to summarize one's place along the spectrum of theistic probability. These "milestones" are:

1. Strong theist. 100 per cent probability of God. In the words of C.G. Jung: "I do not believe, I know."
2. De facto theist. Very high probability but short of 100 per cent. "I don't know for certain, but I strongly believe in God and live my life on the assumption that he is there."
3. Leaning towards theism. Higher than 50 per cent but not very high. "I am very uncertain, but I am inclined to believe in God."
4. Completely impartial. Exactly 50 per cent. "God's existence and non-existence are exactly equiprobable."
5. Leaning towards atheism. Lower than 50 per cent but not very low. "I do not know whether God exists but I'm inclined to be skeptical."
6. De facto atheist. Very low probability, but short of zero. "I don't know for certain but I think God is very improbable, and I live my life on the assumption that he is not there."
7. Strong atheist. "I know there is no God, with the same conviction as Jung knows there is one."

Dawkins argues that while there appear to be plenty of individuals that would place themselves as "1" due to the strictness of religious doctrine against doubt, most atheists do not consider themselves "7" because atheism arises from a lack of evidence and evidence can always change a thinking person's mind. In print, Dawkins self-identified as a '6', though when interviewed by Bill Maher and later by Anthony Kenny, he suggested '6.9' to be more accurate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectru...ic_probability

[Flash Walken]

Good post, March.

Even if you believe there are an infinite number of parallel universes, there must be a universe in which there are no parallel universes.

Maybe that's a bad way of explaining it, but even in absolutist terms it's difficult to be absolutist.