[News] NHL announces new rules for 2014/2015

[Coach]

I would have prefered suspensions for repeat divers. As we have seen with soccer, diving can put a bad reputation on the game just like bad hits do.

$8k is barely a night on the town for most of these guys.

[Rick M.]

Can someone explain the new trapezoid rule? Does it make a wrap around goal impossible?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by MattyC

I would have prefered suspensions for repeat divers. As we have seen with soccer, diving can put a bad reputation on the game just like bad hits do.

$8k is barely a night on the town for most of these guys.

Its not even $8K its a max of $5K.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Rick M.

Can someone explain the new trapezoid rule? Does it make a wrap around goal impossible?

Why would it?

Trapezoid is the area behind the goal line that the goalie is allowed to play the puck. By increasing the size they are allowing goalies to go further into the corner to play the puck.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by Rick M.

Can someone explain the new trapezoid rule? Does it make a wrap around goal impossible?

Pretty sure it just enlarges the area where the goalie can play the puck and not get a penalty. Shouldn't change the actual rules of it or what skaters can do in it.

[Daradon]

I don't know why they felt they needed to get rid of the spin-o-rama in shootouts. Guess it's harder and harder to judge forward movement, but they could come up with something a bit more black and white than that and still have room for creativity. What about a time clock to get the shot off. That would encourage 'fast' spins and also get rid of these crazy lazy shots you see sometimes.

[IntenseFan]

If memory serves, I believe the CBA is the obstacle to making the fines for diving any bigger than they are.

As many have already observed, a $5k fine for an 8 time diver is not likely to make much of a difference.

Suspensions at least have a theoretical chance of correcting the behavior.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

According to LeBrun the NHL will announce the diving fines once a week.

That makes all the difference. I like that a lot.

[albertGQ]

Is the diving fine for every diving penalty they get or will the NHL be able to look at previous game tapes and fine them for unpenalized dives that the referees missed?

[DoubleK]

All good moves.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Locke

Its not even $8K its a max of $5K.

Thanks. Read that wrong.


I would also like to see a rule where teams were not allowed to replace suspended players on the roster. I think that would deter a lot of dirty play (and diving if the above was to be implemented).

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Rule 85 – Puck Out of Bounds

There have been further rule changes made relating to face-off location to avoid penalizing teams for plays intended to create bona fide scoring opportunities. Specifically, the following are "categories of plays" where face-offs will remain in the attacking zone despite the fact that the attacking team was technically responsible for the stoppage in play: Shots at the net by a player on the attacking team where: (i) the shot breaks the glass; (ii) the shot goes off the side of the net and deflects out of play; (iii) the shot goes off the dasher boards or glass and deflects out of play; (iv) the shot is tipped or deflected out of play by a teammate; and (v) the shot becomes wedged in or on the exterior of the goal net.]

This is such a big change in the rules I'm a little surprised that nobody is mentioning it more, especially the bolded part. Basically, the only way the face-off will ever be outside the zone is if the player shoots the puck directly over the glass without anyone or anything touching it, that or it goes out and comes back in off-side. It already stays in if it goes off the goalie or defending team, so basically you're going to see shots galore if there's any opportunity to get it anywhere near the net. Zone entry is still very difficult and a major impediment to a consistent offensive attack. When dumping the puck is most often the best option, and you're definitely not assured of retrieving the puck to create an attack, taking what was a neutral zone face-off and making it an offensive zone face-off will do two things: 1) put a heck of a lot more emphasis on face-offs and centers, and 2) create a lot more sustained pressure on offense.

Probably a good rule change, but it will definitely do a lot to change the way the game is played. Add in the face-off rule changes with penalties and it's now a lot more difficult to defend in the NHL. Goals will likely go up, not a bad thing at all.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Strombone ‏@strombone1

Can we keep the spin-o-rama and ban the shootout instead @nhl ?

[TjRhythmic]

Originally Posted by MattyC

I would have prefered suspensions for repeat divers. As we have seen with soccer, diving can put a bad reputation on the game just like bad hits do.

$8k is barely a night on the town for most of these guys.

It adds up... so if you're caught 8 times, it's going to be totaling close to $30,000.

Heard on TSN, and I think they mentioned as well that there will be public "shaming" on repeat divers. The suspensions are nice in theory, but at the end of the day they aren't really hurting anyone but themselves, and their personal reputation. Where as bad hits actually do hurt people, and that has a bigger consequence with regards to giving the bad reputation to hockey, so those should be suspendable.

[killer_carlson]

The fines are not the diving deterrant

If the referees are given a mandate to call the dives and have the backing of the league to do so, that will change the behavior.

[TjRhythmic]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

The fines are not the diving deterrant

If the referees are given a mandate to call the dives and have the backing of the league to do so, that will change the behavior.

I'm hoping that it isn't match penalties anymore. No more tripping and a diving penalty. It should just be a penalty for diving.

[Hack&Lube]

Spin-o-rama rule makes sense since it contradicts the forward momentum of the puck rule in a way much more major than slight deking/stick handling.

I hope the players can find new and creative ways of working around that to provide some entertainment in the shoot out.

[getbak]

To scale, here's what difference expanding the trapezoid will make...



The inner grey is where the trapezoid used to be.

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by Cali Flames Fan

This is such a big change in the rules I'm a little surprised that nobody is mentioning it more, especially the bolded part. Basically, the only way the face-off will ever be outside the zone is if the player shoots the puck directly over the glass without anyone or anything touching it, that or it goes out and comes back in off-side. It already stays in if it goes off the goalie or defending team, so basically you're going to see shots galore if there's any opportunity to get it anywhere near the net. Zone entry is still very difficult and a major impediment to a consistent offensive attack. When dumping the puck is most often the best option, and you're definitely not assured of retrieving the puck to create an attack, taking what was a neutral zone face-off and making it an offensive zone face-off will do two things: 1) put a heck of a lot more emphasis on face-offs and centers, and 2) create a lot more sustained pressure on offense.

Probably a good rule change, but it will definitely do a lot to change the way the game is played. Add in the face-off rule changes with penalties and it's now a lot more difficult to defend in the NHL. Goals will likely go up, not a bad thing at all.

You have to think guys will be working on creative ways to hammer the puck in just after crossing the red line causing the puck to deflect out and force more offensive zone faceoffs.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Robbob

It's all good that they are increasing the fines for being a Canuck, but it really doesn't mean jack unless they go public with the fines.

They will be made public every Tuesday starting this season.