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Old 09-03-2014, 08:46 PM   #381
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the most intriguing thing for me out of all this is, are there really haircuts that are illegal for untrained people to attempt?
Someone took time to get a law in place for and make it illegal for just anyone to do?
I must have missed this, who said it?
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Old 09-03-2014, 08:47 PM   #382
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Old 09-03-2014, 08:50 PM   #383
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I absolutely cannot give you that haircut, only a select few of our secret 7th level haircutters are allowed and they must first demonstrate the ability to cut a blowfish. I will be charged under the law.

If even half real, that must be one heck of a dangerous haircut style.
I think wittynickname's point was that barbers are trained to use straight razors but hair stylists are not, and this particular cut requires the use of a razor.

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Old 09-03-2014, 08:51 PM   #384
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I think wittynickname's point was that barbers can use straight razors but hair stylists cannot, and this particular cut requires the use of a razor.
Why would it need a razor?
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If this haircut is now popular among women...where are the rest of the women getting this haircut done?
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Old 09-03-2014, 08:58 PM   #386
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If this haircut is now popular among women...where are the rest of the women getting this haircut done?
Probably salons. A lot of women are trained to cut men's hair, not vice versa though as cutting a women's hair takes a lot more practice and skill.
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Old 09-03-2014, 08:58 PM   #387
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the most intriguing thing for me out of all this is, are there really haircuts that are illegal for untrained people to attempt?
Someone took time to get a law in place for and make it illegal for just anyone to do?
I believe it's using the straight-razor that requires special training. So, someone could give you that style of cut, but they wouldn't be able to use the straight-razor to give you the sharp part.


I assume it's something like this:

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Speaking as an actual professional with actual understanding of how haircuts work--the 'hard part' haircut that this woman was seeking is 1) extremely popular right now and 2) a very difficult look to achieve and in some places cannot be done legally by a stylist, only a barber, because straight razor cutting is involved, and at least in Pennsylvania, barbers can use straight razors, stylists legally cannot. e

here is where i got the impression it was illegal. not just rare, actually illegal. so i remain mystified by this. are straight razors so much more dangerous than scissors? This isn't even shaving, where you go against the skin, i think they razor off the hair ends instead of cutting them, which supposedly doesn't crimp it and it is the bomb.

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I believe it's using the straight-razor that requires special training. So, someone could give you that style of cut, but they wouldn't be able to use the straight-razor to give you the sharp part.

probably all true, but still shocked it is 'illegal'
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Why would it need a razor?
I'm just repeating wittynickname's comment from page 2:

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Speaking as an actual professional with actual understanding of how haircuts work--the 'hard part' haircut that this woman was seeking is 1) extremely popular right now and 2) a very difficult look to achieve and in some places cannot be done legally by a stylist, only a barber, because straight razor cutting is involved, and at least in Pennsylvania, barbers can use straight razors, stylists legally cannot.

She was looking for a highly specialized service that a barber such as this type would be able to achieve. Again, I agree--had she been looking for a typical feminine haircut/style/etc, this is not the place for her. She was looking for a men's haircut, so she went to a barber who specializes in the men's haircut that she wanted.
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Straight razors are crazy sharp, like oops my finger is on the floor sharp.
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probably all true, but still shocked it is 'illegal'
I can't speak for all states or Canadian provinces--but as far as the state of PA, straight razors are barber only tools. Like if state board came in and saw me using one, I'd likely face a pretty hefty fine.

I mean, sure, anyone can pick up scissors or a set of clippers and cut someone's hair. But without proper training, that could be one ugly haircut.
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I'm just repeating wittynickname's comment from page 2:
She's in PA. Hardly anyone uses a straight razor in Calgary. And if they do, they only use it for the neck and beard. (and that will cost you about $25 on top)

That cut can still be done using a traditional trimmer.
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for fun, i found a site 'straightrazorblah' something something. sorry forgot.

Here is a quote from there taken from wiki: (no idea of validity.

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Some areas require barbers who provide straight-razor shaving to use a version that employs a disposable blade system. Still other jurisdictions ban the use of all straight razors and barbers use modern disposable blade razors instead. In places such as Australia, New Zealand, Ontario, Pennsylvania, Denver, Boston, Texas and San Diego, however, the use of straight razors is legal.

it seems more an issue of blood borne pathegons and you have to use a disposable one.
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Skip to 5 minute mark to see how they do it without a straight razor. This is how they cut it in Calgary.

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it seems more an issue of blood born pathegons and you have to use a disposable one.
I guess that makes sense, I was thinking more of having someone with some training so they don't accidentally cut off my ear or slit my throat.
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Straight razors are crazy sharp, like oops my finger is on the floor sharp.
Or, "oops, was that your jugular?" sharp.


I could be wrong, but I believe that one of the issues is the need to properly sterilize the razors after each use. Even the most-steady handed barber will likely draw a small amount of blood using a straight razor, so it's important to make sure the blade is safely sterilized after each use.



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As far as I know, you don't need any special training or to be licensed in Calgary to use them.

Only thing is they make you buy a box from the pharmacy to dispose of the used blades.

Edit: the shop owner needs to be licensed, but not the individual barbers.
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I'm against discrimination, but it wouldn't be a bad thing if all barbers started refusing to serve the hipster d-bags who ask for the hard part cut.
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Why would you reject someone offering you money?

Doesn't make sense. Seems like a lousy business man. I remember in business school specifically, one of the fundamental principles of business. I remember it clear as day. "Accept other people's money when given to you".

Just kidding, they never actually said that. They just assumed everyone already knew it.
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