Massive load of celeb pictures leaked

[Muta]

If you don't want naked pictures of yourself floating around the Internet, maybe don't take naked pictures and put them on the Internet?

That said, I'm not complaining right now.

[Chill Cosby]

Originally Posted by Mike F

That's a straw man argument.



No one is saying any of the the celebrities only have themselves to blame. However, if there's an easy step to take that can prevent this from happening 100% of the time - i.e. not taking nude photos with your cell phone - you'd be negligent not to do so, particularly if you know you'd be a highly coveted target for theft and disclosure.



Robbing a jewelery store is morally wrong, but jewelery stores don't rely on moral arguments and public condemnation to prevent theft, they install security.



As I said earlier, I have a 20 yr old niece, and you can bet I'd point to this and say, "If you don't want this type of violation, don't be stupid enough to take nude photos with your cell phone" rather than saying "Go ahead and do whatever feels good, and shame on anyone who takes advantage."

Your comparisons don't make sense.

If you don't want naked pictures of yourself on the Internet, you shouldn't take naked pictures... but if a jewellery store doesn't want to be robbed, it can still carry jewellery?

Those are different rules you allow people to play by.

The important thing to remember is that whatever narrative you're going with, these were personal photos stolen from a personal collection, made accessible by a security breach in a system that is otherwise supposed to be protective of personal digital property.

It wasn't posted on the Internet, or uploaded for everyone to see. It was obtained illegally from a system that claims to be secure.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

I cant even text normally.

nice I like freaky chicks.....

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Mike F

No one is saying any of the the celebrities only have themselves to blame. However, if there's an easy step to take that can prevent this from happening 100% of the time - i.e. not taking nude photos with your cell phone - you'd be negligent not to do so, particularly if you know you'd be a highly coveted target for theft and disclosure.

If you don't want to get pregnant, don't have sex. The examples you've provided of what you tell your niece is exactly the problem, and why men continue to feel entitled to sexually assault women.

EDIT: That came off a lot harsher than I meant it to. I apologize. What I meant to say, is telling your niece these things has the potential to be quite damaging to her should she ever be assaulted.

[DownhillGoat]

Originally Posted by Muta

If you don't want naked pictures of yourself floating around the Internet, maybe don't take naked pictures and put them on the Internet?

I don't think the majority of people consider cloud storage the same as putting something on the internet...

[Muta]

Originally Posted by kunkstyle

I don't think the majority of people consider cloud storage the same as putting something on the internet...

Your files are uploaded to a central server that can be digitally accessed from any device. Putting your naked pics (why you would do that in the first place, I have no idea) from your phone onto an online storage system is a pretty straightforward, and stupid, undertaking. You accepted the risks taking and uploading the pictures in the first place.

Am I missing something here?

[AcGold]

Originally Posted by bcsoda

"Victim blaming occurs when the victim of a crime or any wrongful act is held entirely or partially responsible for the harm that befell them."

That isn't a "spineless defense", that is exactly what is happening in half the posts on this thread.

The fact of the matter is that this is a form of sexual assault (yes, it is, no I'm not over exaggerating http://www.sexualassaultsupport.ca/page-464558 "dissemination of sexual photographs electronically (cyber harassment)"), and anyone who is looking at the images (no matter what your reason is for doing so) is complicit in it.

It doesn't matter how easy or not it is to hack phones, or whether or not you personally believe people should be taking naked photos of themselves - these women have been sexually assaulted and blaming them in any way is an inappropriate response.

The word blame is the issue. I don't see much blaming, a whole lot of confusion as to why celebrities didn't recognise the obvious potential for harm. Nobody is holding them responsible or shaming them besides one person so yeah, victim blaming is all to clichéd of an accusation. It stops the discussion in it's place and is so readily used that it becomes the easy way out; don't agree, must be victim blaming, case closed. Creates reactionary conversation.

The easiest way to not get your images stolen is to not take them on your phone, that's not blaming, that's common sense and the knee jerk reaction is silly and misplaced. Who is to blame? Obviously the hackers so your accusations are false no matter how superior it makes you feel.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Muta

Your files are uploaded to a central server that can be digitally accessed from any device. Putting your naked pics (why you would do that in the first place, I have no idea) from your phone onto an online storage system is a pretty straightforward, and stupid, undertaking. You accepted the risks taking and uploading the pictures in the first place.

Am I missing something here?

As others have mentioned, they were probably unaware that the photos had been backed up to the cloud.

[Burninator]

Am I missing something here or does this thread keep going in circles?

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Burninator

Am I missing something here or does this thread keep going in circles?

First day on the internet?

[DownhillGoat]

Originally Posted by Muta

Your files are uploaded to a central server that can be digitally accessed from any device [...]

Am I missing something here?

I don't disagree with you - I'm familiar with what a cloud service actually does.

I just don't think most people see it that way. Anecdotally speaking, I know way too many people that don't realize that "Google" and "The Internet" are not actually interchangeable words. And still I'd be willing to bet less than a third of people with an iPhone know if their photo roll is actually stored on iCloud or not without checking.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by AcGold

The word blame is the issue. I don't see much blaming, a whole lot of confusion as to why celebrities didn't recognise the obvious potential for harm. Nobody is holding them responsible or shaming them besides one person so yeah, victim blaming is all to clichéd of an accusation. It stops the discussion in it's place and is so readily used that it becomes the easy way out; don't agree, must be victim blaming, case closed. Creates reactionary conversation.

The easiest way to not get your images stolen is to not take them on your phone, that's not blaming, that's common sense and the knee jerk reaction is silly and misplaced. Who is to blame? Obviously the hackers so your accusations are false no matter how superior it makes you feel.

Holy hell, I'm going to see if I can make this simple for you. You seem to be arguing that these celebrities took an unnecessary risk for the purposes of entertainment/intimacy that ended with a negative result, therefore they are partially to blame. Do you realize how insane that sounds when applied to virtually every recreational activity in life? I was playing soccer a couple of months ago and ended up with a concussion, after getting elbowed in the head by some dirty, cheap, piece of crap. Now, to me it's obvious who is to blame here. However, by your logic, if I didn't want a concussion, I shouldn't have been playing soccer.

[Burninator]

Originally Posted by Muta

Your files are uploaded to a central server that can be digitally accessed from any device. Putting your naked pics (why you would do that in the first place, I have no idea) from your phone onto an online storage system is a pretty straightforward, and stupid, undertaking. You accepted the risks taking and uploading the pictures in the first place.

Am I missing something here?

I use online banking like a lot of people (lots even use it on their phones). Should I expect my money to get stolen at some point because it's on the internet?

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by photon

THIS is all kinds of awesome.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by rubecube

As others have mentioned, they were probably unaware that the photos had been backed up to the cloud.

Well, that's the risk they took then, unfortunately, whether they knew it or not.

[Burninator]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

First day on the internet?

There have been a dozen posters who have come into the thread and made the same point like they were the first ones to think of it.

Also have you seen this dancing baby? lol.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by Burninator

I use online banking like a lot of people (lots even use it on their phones). Should I expect my money to get stolen at some point because it's on the internet?

Yes.

[To Be Quite Honest]

Originally Posted by Burninator

I use online banking like a lot of people (lots even use it on their phones). Should I expect my money to get stolen at some point because it's on the internet?

It depends on the passwords you keep. If you have different passwords for your banking then you should be fine. If it's the same as your CP account or email then you might be in trouble. These pictures were acquired by getting the passwords.

[Burninator]

Originally Posted by Muta

Yes.

So online banking is stupid and you don't do it?

Also it's my fault if my money gets stolen even I have a good password? Even if the hackers find a back door? It's all my fault because it's online? Give me a break.

[DownhillGoat]

Originally Posted by Muta

Yes.

Wow.