Yep, No EASHL means alot of people will not be getting 15...
Sure, EASHL is available on PS3 and 360... why not... again punishing the people who updated their systems and supported the next gen movement... pretty disgusted with EA... Alot of people are.
I think VGHL also suspended the league until 2016? I heard that somewhere...
Just such bad publicity for a sports game franchise that has been accused of ripping people off, rushing product, and never really caring about the NHL franchise as a whole... They have had over a year and half to work on the mode... or atleast put in the old EASHL until you finish development..
Not sure how EA is punishing those with a PS4/XB1.
What do they owe you exactly? How are you being punished?
I want to know for no other reason than an almost morbid curiosity.
Further, should a company you accuse of rushing product really put EASHL in NHL 15 if it isn't ready? Isn't that rushing it?
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Pros:
1) the NBC presentation layer looks really nice. the pre-game intro's also look great.
2) some players do feel heavier (ie. regehr) vs guys like gaborik/st.loius
3) puck feels a bit more realistic in how it interacts with skates/sticks
4) one-timers/cross crease don't always connect which is nice
Cons:
1) presentation seems quite limited compared to other EA games when it comes to realtime game stats of the team and the players. Maybe it's just a demo thing, but i was expecting more natural feeling statistics embedded onto the screen during the game play.
2) hopefully this is just a tuner thing, but the passing seems off in that you can basically complete just about any pass regardless of whether you're on your forehand/backhand, if there is severe puck pressure from the forechecker, etc. Not every player on the ice should be able to complete a crossice backhand pass between 2 defenders.
3) wrist shots in the slot are super-effective. that's definitely reflective of real hockey, but i wonder for a video game if they may want to turn this down a bit, and reward more creative hockey involving getting the goalie moving (ie. passing plays), making use of screens/tips, etc, more rather than skating your way into the slot and wristing it top-cheese over and over. i think an easy fix would be to just tone down shot accuracy altogether. A lot more wristers should go wide and over the net, and more often than not, wristers go right into the goalies jersey crest
All that said, unless you're a "eashl only" type nhl fan, which i am not (never played the mode), this is an easy must buy for hockey fans.
I wish they had HUT in the demo like past years, or the option to "restart game" after finishing the 6 min demo game
well done EA. only thing i would love to see now is be a gm, and see some actual improvement in prospect development. this season, like last, my nhl playing composed mostly of simming a year down the road, and really starting at next year's draft and building off the flames' prospect pool. that was a lot less fun last year when the prospect progression was pretty meh.
when the game comes out, would love to organize some vs games against folks on here. mind you, i refuse to play as any team other than the flames.
Over dramatic much? You aren't being punished, it's simply that the makers of NHL 15 didn't have EASHL working to the point they were happy with. Would you rather they put in EASHL and have it be a steaming pile of garbage? PS4/XB1 are new(er) and this is likely the first time the people working on NHL 15 have made a game for those systems.
They opted to start with a new engine and rather than just staying with status quo. So clearly not having experience with the new systems caused EASHL to be a casualty, and that is unfortunate but it wasn't deliberate.
If you aren't happy with what they are offering then don't buy the game, simple as that. To say you are being punished for being an early adopter is pretty silly.
No I dont feel im being over dramatic at all... Im pissed off. If you dont like it... too bad...
As for the next gen platforms... I bought mine when they first came out. They pumped them up quite a bit and had sweet F-all when it came to content. A year later... Still pretty lacking.
But the most frustrating thing is that they keep making games for the ps3 and 360.. So people dont have to update to the new console.. I view that as not caring or "punishing" the fan base that took the jump and dumped money into the platforms and were prepared to dump money into the dev's pockets.
EA and NHL being the biggest culpret. And dont try and defend EA, unless youre an employee... They had a year and a half to develop NHL 15 properly for the next gen. But the lack of money put into the game by EA put them behind because they wernt paying enough people or having the solid coders actually work on the game. That is the bottom line.
NHL always has and always will be a after thought to EA Sports. Period.
They put out a product so they could continue their cash grab HUT. As long as that made it into the game, EA was happy.
But almost 2 years to develop EASHL and NHL 15 as a whole should have been plenty of time.
And dont worry, I wont be buying NHL 15 now... as many people wont be. Not for next gen anyway. The console will sit there collecting dust... still.
Yeah.. Really the only mode my buddies and I play. They are all in VGHL too.. I was last year also.. That is no longer and option unless you go back to the OLD console.
Which it doesnt appear many are willing to do... Its too bad.
I play HUT and I put maybe $500 into HUT in 14. So its not that I dont mind EA trying to make a buck. What bothers me is EA simply releasing the game so they dont lose revenue by not having HUT out there, yet has no problem leaving EASHL by the wayside for now.
Again.. EA had almost 2 years to get this done. Theres no excuse..
No I dont feel im being over dramatic at all... Im pissed off. If you dont like it... too bad...
As for the next gen platforms... I bought mine when they first came out. They pumped them up quite a bit and had sweet F-all when it came to content. A year later... Still pretty lacking.
But the most frustrating thing is that they keep making games for the ps3 and 360.. So people dont have to update to the new console.. I view that as not caring or "punishing" the fan base that took the jump and dumped money into the platforms and were prepared to dump money into the dev's pockets.
EA and NHL being the biggest culpret. And dont try and defend EA, unless youre an employee... They had a year and a half to develop NHL 15 properly for the next gen. But the lack of money put into the game by EA put them behind because they wernt paying enough people or having the solid coders actually work on the game. That is the bottom line.
NHL always has and always will be a after thought to EA Sports. Period.
They put out a product so they could continue their cash grab HUT. As long as that made it into the game, EA was happy.
But almost 2 years to develop EASHL and NHL 15 as a whole should have been plenty of time.
And dont worry, I wont be buying NHL 15 now... as many people wont be. Not for next gen anyway. The console will sit there collecting dust... still.
Well the post before this was less dramatic, so I give you credit for taking it up a notch.
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The presentation is very good, they really did a good job getting the "TV" style presentation in the game. Ice looks great, graphics are detailed and sharp. However, other than the detailed crowds, they don't blow away last gen IMO. I wasn't a fan of the new dynamic camera so I put on the "ice" camera. Felt like playing last gen game by and large. Oh and the menus look cool but I was hoping they'd be much more fluid on next gen. Still kind of slow and stuttery at times.
The gameplay is kind of a mixed bag IMO. I like the flow of the overall game, but controls feel somewhat unresponsive. Can't stickhandle the same way as before, I just feel like there is less control of the player. Scoring is generally the same as its always been. Doesn't really feel like a new game all in all, you are primarily doing the same things the same way as last gen.
Overall the game is just OK in my opinion. It'll be a fine game of hockey. But for me, especially with a next gen jump -- there just isn't a heck of a lot of difference when it really comes down to it. If someone was to ask me whether its worth upgrading to a next gen console for this, I'd honestly have to say no. Stick with old gen and you get basically the same game with more modes. Any of the next gen aspects seem pretty subtle for the most part.
Sums up my feelings about next gen as a whole too, just hasn't really blown me away in anything other than the graphics in Ryse.
I'll be getting the game anyways simply because I already bought a next gen system and need something to play, but overall, nothing incredibly new or exciting here.
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The presentation is very good, they really did a good job getting the "TV" style presentation in the game. Ice looks great, graphics are detailed and sharp. However, other than the detailed crowds, they don't blow away last gen IMO. I wasn't a fan of the new dynamic camera so I put on the "ice" camera. Felt like playing last gen game by and large. Oh and the menus look cool but I was hoping they'd be much more fluid on next gen. Still kind of slow and stuttery at times.
The gameplay is kind of a mixed bag IMO. I like the flow of the overall game, but controls feel somewhat unresponsive. Can't stickhandle the same way as before, I just feel like there is less control of the player. Scoring is generally the same as its always been. Doesn't really feel like a new game all in all, you are primarily doing the same things the same way as last gen.
Overall the game is just OK in my opinion. It'll be a fine game of hockey. But for me, especially with a next gen jump -- there just isn't a heck of a lot of difference when it really comes down to it. If someone was to ask me whether its worth upgrading to a next gen console for this, I'd honestly have to say no. Stick with old gen and you get basically the same game with more modes. Any of the next gen aspects seem pretty subtle for the most part.
Sums up my feelings about next gen as a whole too, just hasn't really blown me away in anything other than the graphics in Ryse.
I'll be getting the game anyways simply because I already bought a next gen system and need something to play, but overall, nothing incredibly new or exciting here.
oh ya, i forgot the camera angle as a con. the camera is brutal at times (like when you're taking a faceoff on the left offensive circle and can't even see all your players on screen). It looks akward when after a faceof your stuck in a weird angle as the game goes on and the camera adjusts.
like i stated a few games ago, after seeing and feeling the delta in madden 14 and madden 15, i think the first next gen will only have so much in it. madden 15 feels awesome, so i think this is really just a foundational framework (ie. starting point) where we seee true innovation, hopefully as early as nhl 16.
It's a hockey game, what "new and exciting" things were you expecting?
that's not fair. If customers are being charged 70 bucks for a new game every year, then there has to be some level of substancial change/enhancement to make it worth it. If they are just providing a roster update and a few patch worthy changes, then they outta charge a one time game fee, and annual subscription fee (of course this would never happen).
after playing the demo, i think ea did due diligence on trying to get as good a game out on the new hardware as possible given that i assume there was quite a bit of a "re-write" involved. i'm willing to give it a pass and enjoy the game hoping that nhl 16 is where the truly ground breaking next-gen power comes into the game.
