I am not a fan of jones but he was better than Sven was until he got sent down. Colbourne was fine for a rookie. I'll give you Galiardi , but he spent a lot of time at the end of the bench or in the pressbox. Don't think that position would have helped Sven. Sven was lucky to last as long as he did last year with the big team. If Feaster had been fired a month sooner Sven would have been sent down. Do posters forget that Sven had a pretty mediocre camp?
What? People now think that Jones and Colborne were better than Baertschi (before he was sent down)?
It was pretty unanimous at the time on the forum in the other direction.
I am not a fan of jones but he was better than Sven was until he got sent down. Colbourne was fine for a rookie. I'll give you Galiardi , but he spent a lot of time at the end of the bench or in the pressbox. Don't think that position would have helped Sven. Sven was lucky to last as long as he did last year with the big team. If Feaster had been fired a month sooner Sven would have been sent down. Do posters forget that Sven had a pretty mediocre camp?
In addition to what you have said, it is also important to remember that Baertschi (or any young player) still has lots of room to improve - as opposed to Galiardi or Jones who are finished products. In the AHL Sven can afford to make mistakes without having to worry about demotion or taking a hit in his self-confidence - unless he is exceptional at camp, it is definitely more beneficial that he stay in the AHL until he becomes dominant there.
It's easy to place Sven in the lineup right now and he could put up 30-40 points this season but we all know he can be better than that.
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Eh - I suppose the signing is okay. I'm not angry but I would liked to give the rookies a better chance to make opening line up. But I guess injuries and trades will clear up space for them.
What? People now think that Jones and Colborne were better than Baertschi (before he was sent down)?
It was pretty unanimous at the time on the forum in the other direction.
And everybody knows the vocal minority on this forum knows the players better and what's better for the Flames in the long term for a rebuild than a team of NHL coaches and Flames management, right?
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And everybody knows the vocal minority on this forum knows the players better and what's better for the Flames in the long term for a rebuild than a team of NHL coaches and Flames management, right?
I did, it didn't make sense to me so I posted mine. That okay?
Out of curiosity, do you think a few dozen posters on this board are more knowledgeable than the Flames brass in evaluating how young players should be developed?
I did, it didn't make sense to me so I posted mine. That okay?
Out of curiosity, do you think a few dozen posters on this board are more knowledgeable than the Flames brass in evaluating how young players should be developed?
No - doesn't mean they are never wrong and cannot be criticized by people who feel differently.
The moment someone ever dissagrees with Burke/Treliving all people ever say is "do you think your smarter then the flames?" Obviously we don't, but we disagree with them.
What? People now think that Jones and Colborne were better than Baertschi (before he was sent down)?
It was pretty unanimous at the time on the forum in the other direction.
Yeah... remember that time when a couple noisy posters were also worried about Gaudreau signing in Calgary? You felt so vindicated, and thought it was "consensus".
So, as far as gauging the temperature of the board, you're not the best one to judge.
No - doesn't mean they are never wrong and cannot be criticized by people who feel differently.
The moment someone ever dissagrees with Burke/Treliving all people ever say is "do you think your smarter then the flames?" Obviously we don't, but we disagree with them.
Sven, Johnny, Markus, etc. were not and are not going to be competing for spots with guys like Galiardi, Colborne, Jones (at least once the Flames figured out what they had with him), etc.
If the prospects are beating these types of players our for spots on the third and fourth line, with no specialty teams time, then Calgary is in big trouble. It's a false dilemma situation and an argument that needs to die a quick death. If your primary concern is getting the young, exciting (yet unproven) guys on the roster then be upset with the Glencross's, Stajans, and Hudlers of the roster as they are the placeholders for the Baertschis, Gaudreaus, and Granlunds.
Besides, Calgary has next to zilch on the right side, and Seto's signing isn't going to interfere with the Flames' LW and C prospect base.
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No - doesn't mean they are never wrong and cannot be criticized by people who feel differently.
The moment someone ever dissagrees with Burke/Treliving all people ever say is "do you think your smarter then the flames?" Obviously we don't, but we disagree with them.
I think it's completely silly when a poster uses the old 'we all thought it was a stupid move so it must be a stupid move' argument. I fully understand not liking everything management does but c'mon, it makes it so much easier to see someone's point when they aren't essentially calling everyone elses opinion wrong because you disagree with theirs.
I think it's completely silly when a poster uses the old 'we all thought it was a stupid move so it must be a stupid move' argument. I fully understand not liking everything management does but c'mon, it makes it so much easier to see someone's point when they aren't essentially calling everyone elses opinion wrong because you disagree with theirs.
I suppose your right. I guess I just think that more thought needs to be put in some of the stuff here instead of 100% faith, with no debate with management.
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No opinion was really portrayed in Zevo's post though.
That's your opinion on his opinion. In my opinion, both Zevo and Ashasx had opinions regarding what the opinions of others meant.
My point is, can you stop arguing about what is/isn't an opinion and who gets to express his/her opinion? Maybe focus on the subject and stop talking about other posters.
