Mgtow

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by prime333

Can you back this claim up? I know plenty of single guys and I have probably met a dozen guys in their 40's, and 50's that can regularly get with reasonably good-looking, well-adjusted girls in their 20's. Several are rich, most are well-off or middle-class, a few still live in the hood. These older cat's are outgoing and upbeat, sociable, purely fun attitudes. Most of 'em are also ####ing sharp dressers, and well-traveled.

You give me the impression that you would punch a woman square in the face willingly.

[terminator]

Originally Posted by prime333

Can you back this claim up? I know plenty of single guys and I have probably met a dozen guys in their 40's, and 50's that can regularly get with reasonably good-looking, well-adjusted girls in their 20's. Several are rich, most are well-off or middle-class, a few still live in the hood. These older cat's are outgoing and upbeat, sociable, purely fun attitudes. Most of 'em are also ####ing sharp dressers, and well-traveled.

And this is related to pylons post how?

[combustiblefuel]

I'm so glad you are choosing not to pro-create. You don't need to be married to get dinged by child support.

The last thing we need are more kids that will go up to be Like Sarah Palin or George W Bush.

[pylon]

Originally Posted by prime333

Can you back this claim up? I know plenty of single guys and I have probably met a dozen guys in their 40's, and 50's that can regularly get with reasonably good-looking, well-adjusted girls in their 20's. Several are rich, most are well-off or middle-class, a few still live in the hood. These older cat's are outgoing and upbeat, sociable, purely fun attitudes. Most of 'em are also ####ing sharp dressers, and well-traveled.

I am the guy you are describing to a certain extent. I turn 40 tomorrow in fact. I still date women in their 20's, and I am reasonably well off, and have a pretty good time for the better part. But there is no denying my choice has left a hole in my life I sometimes wish was filled. Living for yourself and in the moment only goes so far. Cool cars, vacations, and man toys can't bring you comfort at night, hold your hand at a funeral, and support you in a personal crisis.

Lose your job? Your on your own.

Have a heart attack in the kitchen? You have no chance.

Get that huge promotion your have chased for years? It's you and a bottle of Crown Royal to share it with.

Having all the freedom, has it's price. And it isn't always a good one.

[combustiblefuel]

The only awareness you gave given me here is how much more I love the woman in my life.

[Five-hole]

Originally Posted by prime333

If you as a men marry someone who makes more than you; you will be better financially. Though most women want a men who will make more than she does. I know people will hate me for saying this(they already do) while a women is likely to sleep with someone who makes less than her, she's unlikely to marry someone who make less than her.

Presumably you make more than you cost. Let's call this X, your "profit".

Presumably your wife makes more than she costs. Let's call this Y, her "profit".

X + Y > X

Bam, you're better off financially than you were alone.

Plus you cut a lot of expenses by as much as half. Like, say, rent! Let's call the saved expenses Q.

X + Y + Q > X

You don't get Y and Q without a partner, partner. (I hope this emotionless, purely rational approach appeals to your sociopathic mindset.)

[Goodlad]

I'm surprised that I'm the first one to point this out, but doesn't an awful lot of prime333's posts remind anyone of Elliot Rodger? I know a lot of these MGTOW guys held him up as some kind of righteous crusader after the incident, and a lot of his videos were eerily similar to prime333's nonsense.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/25/us...ting.html?_r=0

[prime333]

Originally Posted by Goodlad

I'm surprised that I'm the first one to point this out, but doesn't an awful lot of prime333's posts remind anyone of Elliot Rodger? I know a lot of these MGTOW guys held him up as some kind of righteous crusader after the incident, and a lot of his videos were eerily similar to prime333's nonsense.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/25/us...ting.html?_r=0

Elliot Rodger was NOT an MRA. Though the media sure made him out to be one. What nonsense are you taking about?

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by prime333

Elliot Rodger was NOT an MRA. Though the media sure made him out to be one. What nonsense are you taking about?

What nonsense are you talking about?

Have you told your mother woman are just to be used and are property?

[GP_Matt]

Originally Posted by Five-hole

Presumably you make more than you cost. Let's call this X, your "profit".

Presumably your wife makes more than she costs. Let's call this Y, her "profit".

X + Y > X

Bam, you're better off financially than you were alone.

Plus you cut a lot of expenses by as much as half. Like, say, rent! Let's call the saved expenses Q.

X + Y + Q > X

You don't get Y and Q without a partner, partner. (I hope this emotionless, purely rational approach appeals to your sociopathic mindset.)

You forgot that two super cool guys can also live together in a totally non-gay co-habitation agreement. All the benefits of having a spouse without the controlling and risk that comes with being married.


Is it safe to assume that Prime333 knows the best bagel/cream cheese combination to have sex with?

[Dion]

Originally Posted by prime333

Elliot Rodger was NOT an MRA. Though the media sure made him out to be one. What nonsense are you taking about?

Yes he was...

Wait, what? Men’s rights? That’s a thing? Yes, it’s a thing, and while there are certain legitimate aspects to men’s rights activism, or MRA, it’s overwhelmingly a toxic slew of misogyny. This world of resentment and hate speech has been brought to light in recent days as we learned about the vitriolic forum posts and videos left behind by Elliot Rodger, the 22 year-old accused of killing six people in Santa Barbara last week. But it’s hard to comprehend from Roger’s delusional rants how potent the movement’s message can be for ordinary men.

http://time.com/#134152/the-toxic-ap...ghts-movement/

[2ArmBands]

I'm gonna be honest. My life without my lady is a scary scary place. Typically once a year herself and the kids will go back home for a fairly lengthy visit, usually about 2 weeks.

The first couple days is euphoric freedom. Playin poker at the casino, eating terribly, drinking regularly, masturbating somewhere other than the man cave, taking naps. It's great.

Usually by week 2 I look at myself in the mirror and I see 20 year old me and it scares the $&@! out of me. That guy was an unmotivated lost soul. Meeting my lady was the best thing that ever happened to me. It motivated me to excel in my career and be a good provider to her and my kids. Which to this point in my life is what I am most proud of.

I would be terrified to see what I would have become without her in my life.

[photon]

Originally Posted by prime333

Can you back this claim up?

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/91-209-...g/fig1-eng.htm
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/91-209-...g/fig4-eng.htm
http://www4.hrsdc.gc.ca/.3ndic.1t.4r@-eng.jsp?iid=37

[photon]

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/85-002-...634-eng.htm#a4

In 2010/2011, the majority of active divorce cases (80%) in the reporting jurisdictions were uncontested, with the remaining 20% being contested or disputed cases (Table 6).

In Canada, the vast majority of divorce cases are resolved before reaching the trial stage. In 2010/2011, 1% of divorce cases in six provinces and territories had a trial during the year (excludes Ontario since figures for Ontario are not comparable).Note 10 Moreover, only 2% of divorce cases that were active in 2010/2011 in the six provinces and territories had ever reached a trial during the case.

[Muta]

I'm no prime333 fan considering the content of his posts, but some of you guys are getting pretty harsh in your responses. I think he just likes being single but has approached this topic quite poorly. His underlying message is rather easy to understand, however. Just poorly executed in communication.

[wretched34]

Originally Posted by Muta

I'm no prime333 fan considering the content of his posts, but some of you guys are getting pretty harsh in your responses. I think he just likes being single but has approached this topic quite poorly. His underlying message is rather easy to understand, however. Just poorly executed in communication.

Approaching a topic quite poorly, misunderstood underlying messages, and poor execution of communication is likely the cause of all this MGTOW nonsense.....
I definitely respect people for being optimistic and seeing the bright side in everything, but preaching how awesome life is, and telling other men they are doomed, and have lost all their masculinity because they were capable of finding a woman,when they themselves could not, pushes people the wrong way. You can't possibly expect people to not jump all over this.

[Slava]

Hey Prime, what about love? Like how does that factor into things? Not to get all sappy here, but what seems to be lost is the idea that a man falls in love with a lady and genuinely wants to spend his life with her. It's companionship. Over time she is probably your best friend and most trusted confidant.

I have always had loyal and fulfilling friendships. Some of my best friends have been friends of mine for half my life and we have deep rooted connections. The connection between my wife and I is on another level though. I guess that means I am vulnerable to being hurt or let down if she runs around on me or whatever devious thing she could do. But just like my male friends I hardly consider it.

Anyway, I would be really interested to hear what this system says about love and companionship. I didn't read all the links and probably won't, so I apologize if it's buried in there somewhere.

[The Fonz]

Originally Posted by Slava

Hey Prime, what about love? Like how does that factor into things? Not to get all sappy here, but what seems to be lost is the idea that a man falls in love with a lady and genuinely wants to spend his life with her. It's companionship. Over time she is probably your best friend and most trusted confidant.

Anyway, I would be really interested to hear what this system says about love and companionship. I didn't read all the links and probably won't, so I apologize if it's buried in there somewhere.

Sociopaths aren't capable of love.

Incapable of feeling shame, guilt, or remorse? Check
Seeking to dominate others? Check
Incapable of love? Check
Manipulative? Check


I'd wager that MGTOW is meeting spot for sociopaths, and cowards.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Muta

I'm no prime333 fan considering the content of his posts, but some of you guys are getting pretty harsh in your responses. I think he just likes being single but has approached this topic quite poorly. His underlying message is rather easy to understand, however. Just poorly executed in communication.

No, his communication was quite clear. He thinks he's a pimp. Assuming a young teen who listens to some gangster rap. He's a young dude that thinks "Bitches ain't #### but Hoe's and tricks"

Look at his comments and compare them to some school gangster rap. Too $hort in interviews called marriage "legal prostitution" . The whole idea of build your wealth up and %u&k bitches is behind every word this kid says.

I listen to a lot of gangster rap myself. I even admit I sort of had a similiar view when I was In my late teens.I thought all my money and bling was goimg to get me laid all the the time and I was gods gift to woman. Enough nights going home alone for a couple of years straightened me out. When I turned 20 I lost the bling and crap . Realized girls domt give 2 ####s about that. Times when I was at my lowest finacially but still a great guy is when I was able to meet some amazing woman before I meet my absolote soul mate.The difference is realizing reality vs your own "I'm a stone cold pimp yo" in your head.

[Arya Stark]

Originally Posted by Muta

I'm no prime333 fan considering the content of his posts, but some of you guys are getting pretty harsh in your responses. I think he just likes being single but has approached this topic quite poorly. His underlying message is rather easy to understand, however. Just poorly executed in communication.

Disagree. the reaction is warranted. I'm not really sure how else he can communicate "use women" and it would sound better.