08-18-2014, 05:00 PM
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#81
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Leaving out Ho-Sang from the camp is mistake... he's arguably the most skilled forward out of the prospects invited... and last time I checked, Canada hasn't won a WJC gold in a while. You can say all you want about him speaking his mind and having a cocky attitude, but Canada should at least give him a shot to prove his worth given the fact that Canada hasn't been able to medal in quite some time.
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08-18-2014, 05:07 PM
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#82
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#1 Goaltender
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One more reason why I don't want this guy to make it in the NHL. What an attitude problem.
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08-18-2014, 05:21 PM
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#83
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by mile
When Hockey Canada selects the players they want on their team, they're choosing the ones that they believe will give them the best chance to win. They're not choosing players with the mindset that "we want to develop and fix this player." That is something you work on with your junior team and in the off-season.
It's hard to fix and develop skills over a two week tournament or a one week camp anyways. The ones that do make the team/camp and saw improvement in their game as a bonus were the ones that earned their spot in the first place. Ho-Sang doesn't understand that.
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This.
It is a two-week tournament, and winning is mandatory.
It is not a development camp. And HC owes none of the kids anything.
The fact that he thinks they should be 'fixing' his game (as opposed to trying to build a winning team) speaks volumes to the fact that he is not emotionally ready to be considered.
He is merely digging the hole deeper with these comments.
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08-18-2014, 05:25 PM
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#84
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Maybe he should worry about not being the next Rob Schremp and stop whining about being passed over in the draft or not selected to a camp.
The list is long of players who felt slight and very, very short of players who openly talked about it, yet succeeded.
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08-18-2014, 05:49 PM
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#85
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Franchise Player
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hmmm... .am i the only guy around here that is actually hoping this guy turns out to be a player?
ya, he's got a bit of a skewed view on things, but it would be a cool story if he lives up to his on ice skillset. the issue that plagues this notion the most are the claims that he's a "me first" selfish player on the ice too, which is a shame.
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08-18-2014, 06:04 PM
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#86
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He has, as he seems to say, a lot of "stuff" going on inside his head. I hope he gets dummied good in preseason and learns a lesson or two. I only hope he succeeds by straightening out his attitude. It will serve him well in life. Gosh, I can't even see anyone wanting to hire him at a grocery store or work with him with that attitude.
Unfortunately for him, it looks like he will have to learn the hard way and take some lumps to maybe...maybe get past the egocentric/world against me attitude. For starters, I hope he succeeds in that department. If not, he doesn't have much of a future IMO at anything.
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08-18-2014, 06:18 PM
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#87
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SHOGUN
Leaving out Ho-Sang from the camp is mistake... he's arguably the most skilled forward out of the prospects invited... and last time I checked, Canada hasn't won a WJC gold in a while. You can say all you want about him speaking his mind and having a cocky attitude, but Canada should at least give him a shot to prove his worth given the fact that Canada hasn't been able to medal in quite some time.
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Did every Canadian that was drafted before him last year get invited? If not, then he has no reason to feel slighted.
Last edited by Fire; 08-18-2014 at 07:50 PM.
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08-18-2014, 06:33 PM
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#88
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Lifetime Suspension
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I feel like Ho Sang is not fully committed to his schtick.
He needs to refer to himself in 3rd person if he's going to get the full effect and continue with what he's doing now. His statement should have read:
"Josh Ho Sang wants Team Canada to know it's made a big mistake not extending a camp invite to Josh Ho Sang. Josh Ho Sang doesn't take well to being slighted like that..."
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08-18-2014, 07:06 PM
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#89
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I think he will if he immatures further. I don't think that's a word. Wait til he's 25 or 30 and if he keeps going the way he is, it'll happen.
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08-18-2014, 07:25 PM
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#90
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire
Did every Canadian that was drafted before him in last year draft get invited? If not, then he has no reason to feel slighted.
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Conner Bleackley (23rd overall) and Jared McCann (24th overall) were both drafted just ahead of Ho-Sang and were not invited.
Jayce Hawryluk (32nd overall) and Brayden Point (79th overall) are the only forwards drafted after Ho-Sang who were invited (plus, McDavid, who is the only undrafted player invited).
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08-18-2014, 07:38 PM
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#91
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I'm also glad that it's the Isles and not us who seem to think they can fix his problems. Hockey Canada, as alluded to, obviously knows they can't in such an abbreviated time, as well they shouldn't. As unsuccessful as they've been lately, I'd throw them to the gutter if that nut was invited this summer. He would probably destroy the team if he actually made it. Don't think he would affect guys much in a camp, as they'd probably roll their eyes at one another and shrug their shoulders, but maybe get po'd at the jerk as well.
How does he even last on a junior team??!
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08-18-2014, 08:13 PM
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#92
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"If you're going to alienate an 18-year-old kid, like good job. Their job is development and progression of Canadian hockey. If I am a problem child, that means they don't like problems, that they have an issue with fixing things, that they like when things are easy. That actually means that they don't possess the ability to develop and that they are just taking players to fit their role that have been developed somewhere else."
I mean, he's wrong about being alienated, but he's not exactly wrong with the second part. Still can't be bothered to care what with all the crying it took him in order to come to a valid point.
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08-18-2014, 08:18 PM
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#93
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bubbsy
hmmm... .am i the only guy around here that is actually hoping this guy turns out to be a player?
ya, he's got a bit of a skewed view on things, but it would be a cool story if he lives up to his on ice skillset. the issue that plagues this notion the most are the claims that he's a "me first" selfish player on the ice too, which is a shame.
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Ya I have no issue with it. I hope he pans out as well. He's 18 years old. I was hoping he would fall to the flames at 34.
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08-18-2014, 08:19 PM
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#94
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: The Netherlands
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CampbellsTransgressions
"If you're going to alienate an 18-year-old kid, like good job. Their job is development and progression of Canadian hockey. If I am a problem child, that means they don't like problems, that they have an issue with fixing things, that they like when things are easy. That actually means that they don't possess the ability to develop and that they are just taking players to fit their role that have been developed somewhere else."
I mean, he's wrong about being alienated, but he's not exactly wrong with the second part. Still can't be bothered to care what with all the crying it took him in order to come to a valid point.
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He's not wrong about it because it's not a goal of theirs to develop their players. He says they just take already developed players and that's true because ... it's basically their only option.. Hockey Canada doesn't have the opportunity to extensively work with their candidates. They get a short window which doesn't allow them the chance of what Ho Sang is trying to accuse them of.
Josh Ho-Sang needs to think before he opens his yapper.
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08-18-2014, 08:20 PM
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#95
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@ Campbell: Well yeah, HC wants developed players who they shouldn't hire a staff of shrinks to try to fix. Don't think anybody is missing something in that regard. He is poison in a locker room at this point and maybe to answer my question above, he is more suited to being the #1 guy on a team in junior. That can carry forward to a successful beer league career.
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08-18-2014, 08:27 PM
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#96
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CampbellsTransgressions
"If you're going to alienate an 18-year-old kid, like good job. Their job is development and progression of Canadian hockey. If I am a problem child, that means they don't like problems, that they have an issue with fixing things, that they like when things are easy. That actually means that they don't possess the ability to develop and that they are just taking players to fit their role that have been developed somewhere else."
I mean, he's wrong about being alienated, but he's not exactly wrong with the second part. Still can't be bothered to care what with all the crying it took him in order to come to a valid point.
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It's a two week tournament where you play a maximum of 7 games. Of course they're not looking to fix problems. Even if they tried, the tournament would be over before they'd even start to make a difference.
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08-18-2014, 08:38 PM
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#97
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SHOGUN
Leaving out Ho-Sang from the camp is mistake... he's arguably the most skilled forward out of the prospects invited... and last time I checked, Canada hasn't won a WJC gold in a while. You can say all you want about him speaking his mind and having a cocky attitude, but Canada should at least give him a shot to prove his worth given the fact that Canada hasn't been able to medal in quite some time.
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Maybe Team Canada wants to send a team made up of players who think it is a privilege to represent his country rather than think he is above everyone. It is customary for players to play out of position and take on different roles and play different minutes from what they are use to. The last thing they want is a player who is going to question the coach's decision because he feels he would have been the difference.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=459703
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08-18-2014, 08:39 PM
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#98
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Franchise Player
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Ho Sang should play for Russia - he'd fit right in
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08-18-2014, 08:47 PM
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#99
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Calgary
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If he was smart he would of kept his mouth shut and come out in the first 2 months of the CHL season and played his guts out. His play should speak for itself.
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08-18-2014, 09:08 PM
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#100
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SHOGUN
Leaving out Ho-Sang from the camp is mistake... he's arguably the most skilled forward out of the prospects invited...
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Um no. That would be Connor McDavid . . . who propped up Ho Sang throughout midget (even though he was a year younger).
You don't "get a shot" just because you have a big mouth.
If Ho Sang's top 6 in the CHL in points by December, or suddenly develops a 200 foot game, then he has an argument.
But he certainly hasn't made that argument to date.
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