A terrific space romp similar to The Fifth Element and the first Star Wars.
I'm not big into contrived humour (I don't know what's wrong with me) but they struck a great balance between serious action, intelligent humour, and, well, stupid humour for lack of better terms.
Really enjoyed the Infinity Gauntlet stuff. One of my favourite story lines as a kid, and it was cool to see Thanos.
Damn, I wish the Silver Surfer rights belonged to Disney.
A terrific space romp similar to The Fifth Element and the first Star Wars.
I'm not big into contrived humour (I don't know what's wrong with me) but they struck a great balance between serious action, intelligent humour, and, well, stupid humour for lack of better terms.
Really enjoyed the Infinity Gauntlet stuff. One of my favourite story lines as a kid, and it was cool to see Thanos.
Damn, I wish the Silver Surfer rights belonged to Disney.
Isn't the whole Fantastic Four universe really close to being back in Marvel's hands? Fox hasn't done anything with it in quite awhile now
The plot was pretty crappy and muddled and that usually ruins a movie for me from the get go.
However, the characters were very strong and the humor and action somehow made up for it. Super fun movie. Can't wait for the next one.
I forgot to add that the soundtrack was amazing. Usually I don't like when classic songs are out of place due to genre or time but the awesome mixtape plot device (nod to boogie nights) makes the music fit.
Isn't the whole Fantastic Four universe really close to being back in Marvel's hands? Fox hasn't done anything with it in quite awhile now
No. Marvel tried negotiating with Fox to "borrow" the Silver Surfer for one of their movies and in exchange they offered to extend Fox's rights to the Daredevil franchise. Fox said no, the Daredevil rights reverted back to Marvel and they're set to release a new Fantastic Four movie in 2015.
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No. Marvel tried negotiating with Fox to "borrow" the Silver Surfer for one of their movies and in exchange they offered to extend Fox's rights to the Daredevil franchise. Fox said no, the Daredevil rights reverted back to Marvel and they're set to release a new Fantastic Four movie in 2015.
Ugh, I really hate the short-sightedness of Marvel when they sold the rights to 3 of their biggest franchises. There should have been a firm end date where the rights reverted back to them, just for the ability to renegotiate the price if nothing else. For how awesome Marvel's cinematic universe is turning to be, it will always feel like it's missing something with no F4, X-Men, or Spiderman
Ugh, I really hate the short-sightedness of Marvel when they sold the rights to 3 of their biggest franchises. There should have been a firm end date where the rights reverted back to them, just for the ability to renegotiate the price if nothing else. For how awesome Marvel's cinematic universe is turning to be, it will always feel like it's missing something with no F4, X-Men, or Spiderman
Marvel didn't have the backing it does now with Disney.
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Yeah, people forget that in the mid 90's Marvel filed for Chapter 11 Bankruptcy protection. They aren't the media juggernaut they are now, and they weren't owned by the giant that is Disney.
Having even one comic book film be a mainstream success was a pipe dream, much less translating an entire series of films spanning years.
If anything we should be thankful that they did sell these rights off when they did, or we would have none of these films with their vision and over-arching stories.
Ugh, I really hate the short-sightedness of Marvel when they sold the rights to 3 of their biggest franchises. There should have been a firm end date where the rights reverted back to them, just for the ability to renegotiate the price if nothing else. For how awesome Marvel's cinematic universe is turning to be, it will always feel like it's missing something with no F4, X-Men, or Spiderman
Some good points here, and some historical info. The market for these films is going to collapse at some point, especially with the planned volume upcoming. Marvel/Disney will eventually get the rights back. But we've seen a ton of great Marvel comic movies, from Marvel Studios and otherwise, due to this licensing.
Given the success and apparent future success you would think that Fox and Sony would be knocking on Disney's door for a piece of the pie.
Not to give the rights back, but at least for a cross licensing that would let the characters cross over from time to time. Not a Marvel Spiderman movie, but let Spiderman be in Avengers 3.
Wouldn't that be a win win? Sony and Fox can only benefit from increasing the popularity of their characters, and get a cut of the take. Marvel gets to incorporate their biggest characters increasing the take.
I guess the hard part would be Marvel's obviously gone to great lengths to weave an overarching narrative for their movies and planning what's going on in the universe, weaving in Spiderman is probably not that hard, but X-Men might be.
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Given the success and apparent future success you would think that Fox and Sony would be knocking on Disney's door for a piece of the pie.
Not to give the rights back, but at least for a cross licensing that would let the characters cross over from time to time. Not a Marvel Spiderman movie, but let Spiderman be in Avengers 3.
Wouldn't that be a win win? Sony and Fox can only benefit from increasing the popularity of their characters, and get a cut of the take. Marvel gets to incorporate their biggest characters increasing the take.
I guess the hard part would be Marvel's obviously gone to great lengths to weave an overarching narrative for their movies and planning what's going on in the universe, weaving in Spiderman is probably not that hard, but X-Men might be.
I listen to a fair amount of comic pod casts and the rumblings I have heard is that Marvel tried to do this before (Silver Surfer is a direct example) and were told to 'buzz off'. Since the mega success of their franchise they have had talks with other studios, but the buzz off is coming from Marvel now. When building an empire you don't meet the demands of an inferior nation, you invade them and crush them. Join us or die. In this case it seems to be more of a starve them out tactic.
Right now there is no nation that can stand against Marvel (Disney) and eventually the rest will crumble.. it is just a matter of time. All of the posturing from Marvel that we discussed in the Ongoing thread points to this as well.
Feige puts it very politely..
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IGN: I spoke to Hugh Jackman earlier this year and he said he’d love to see Wolverine join the Avengers and fight the Hulk. Obviously another studio owns the rights to that character, but do you think there would be any chance of you guys doing a deal with Fox and that happening down the line?
Feige: My answer to that question has always been the same, which is when I started at Marvel 14 years ago the notion of us becoming our own studio, becoming more successful than other studios doing this, and bringing The Avengers to the screen, would have seemed like the pipe dream of all pipe dreams. And because we are sitting here talking because this has all happened, I’m not going to rule out anything. It has been unbelievable – the Marvel experience for me in particular over the years, so anything’s possible. But I would say for the immediate future, Fox is very busy building their X-Men universe and redoing the Fantastic Four universe. Sony is well underway with their Spider-Man plans. And we clearly have a long-term vision for the cinematic universe. And thankfully have so many characters and so many possibilities that we don’t find ourselves in a position going ‘Will we ever get these other characters in here because we don’t know what to do.’ There’s lots to do.
Good interview from July, lots about Guardians in there as well:
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Yeah I don't see Fox doing it. They have enough with X-Men and Fantastic Four to try to build their own universe IMO. Although if Fantastic Four flops they likely won't try a 3rd movie in that Franchise and the rights could default back to Marvel.
Sony would be the ones to have to do it. They are already in Version 2 of Spiderman and if the Sinister Six plot fails they would have ran threw a big portion of the Spiderman universe. Plus a cross over is easy with a single character, and Sony would benefit from the carryover it would have for their own movie.
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Yeah I don't see Fox doing it. They have enough with X-Men and Fantastic Four to try to build their own universe IMO. Although if Fantastic Four flops they likely won't try a 3rd movie in that Franchise and the rights could default back to Marvel.
Sony would be the ones to have to do it. They are already in Version 2 of Spiderman and if the Sinister Six plot fails they would have ran threw a big portion of the Spiderman universe. Plus a cross over is easy with a single character, and Sony would benefit from the carryover it would have for their own movie.
As crappy as the Fantastic Four movies were, both grossed about 300 million each at the domestic box office.
A good Fantastic Four movie has the chance to gross 500+ mil. But they aren't going to lose the rights to make 200 million, because it would be better for another company to make 400 million.
As for cross-overs between studies, it's a little unlikely. The people who hold the rights want total creative control over their product. You either let some other studio do their own version of your character or you merge the universes into one canon. That other studio can then mess with the canon of your universe.
It's been done a few times with characters that don't rely on canon/storytelling (Ex. Roger Rabbit), but the comic book community is too critical.
