[News] Kevin Hayes signs with the Rangers

[H2SO4(aq)]

Originally Posted by Scoreface

Like others have alluded to, I'd be happy to have him as a RW prospect, but not gonna lose sleep over the whole thing. If the East is better for him I can respect that if family is most important. Otherwise, stay the F out of here. In the prior scenario, stay the eff out of west town, especially as a big higher skilled RW. He could flourish here consisidering our depth there/guys who could slot in there.

A natural r/w is huge, but like I said unless it's for family reasons (Boston/Florida) then stay in the East. Part of his "family" was growing in college at BC with his mates. Maybe he feels he wouldn't break into the NHL with either/both. Whatever. The teddy bear drop happened past spring. Look for a good opportunity and fight tooth and nail to get it. I'd see the opportunity to be teammates with Gaudreau and/or Arnold at either level to be an incentive.

I have no idea what you are talking about...

[T@T]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

Don't take this as gospel or anything, it's one of those "I know a guy who knows a guy" situations.

But a little birdy told me that Hayes is either a Ranger or a Panther on Friday. The Flames and his agent had some talks but he does not want to play in the West.

If true he must be something special, not only does he snub his drafted team now he's too good for half the league.

[mrdonkey]

Yep, it's an orange julius rumor, I totally own up to that. A guy I golf with is a friend of the Hayes family and we got to talking. Just thought it would generate some good conversation to pass on what I've been told. Hayes had interest from lots of teams but Western teams were told "zero percent" chance Kevin would leave the Eastern seaboard.

That's all I know. Take it with a grain of salt.

[MVW]

If teams have legitimately not talked to his Hayes or his agent, the most logical thought is that the player himself does not yet know where he is signing. Teams will make offers, he will get a feel for what various organizations are all about, how they run things, where they see him fitting in, some may even want to fly him out to their city. It doesn't make sense to me that he would already know where he's gonna play yet unless teams have tampered in pre-negotiations. That's why I think the Flames have a good shot, 100% you know Johnny and Arnold have talked to him about Calgary, as his brother would of about Florida. I also think Boston has a good shot because of his familiarity with the area, but really nothing would surprise me due to the reasons I stated.

[#-3]

Originally Posted by MVW

If teams have legitimately not talked to his Hayes or his agent, the most logical thought is that the player himself does not yet know where he is signing. Teams will make offers, he will get a feel for what various organizations are all about, how they run things, where they see him fitting in, some may even want to fly him out to their city. It doesn't make sense to me that he would already know where he's gonna play yet unless teams have tampered in pre-negotiations. That's why I think the Flames have a good shot, 100% you know Johnny and Arnold have talked to him about Calgary, as his brother would of about Florida. I also think Boston has a good shot because of his familiarity with the area, but really nothing would surprise me due to the reasons I stated.

Honestly if Chicago is really content with the 2nd round compensation pick, they may have already given Hayes Agent permission to talk to teams. Those kind of good will moves are important for a GMs image in the hockey community.

[MarkGio]

Originally Posted by #-3

Honestly if Chicago is really content with the 2nd round compensation pick, they may have already given Hayes Agent permission to talk to teams. Those kind of good will moves are important for a GMs image in the hockey community.

I believe a 2nd in the 2015 draft could easily pan out to being a better player than Hayes. Chicago will likely need that pick and better player 4 years from now over the current Kevin Hayes. They came out ahead IMO.

[MarkGio]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Permissions can be granted of course. But the accuracy of Orange Julius hearsay is being questioned. Personally I don't really care about Hayes signing in CGY as much anymore as he would be yet another LH RW/C in the stable. But I feel the validity of the post is leaning towards purple monkey dishwasher land. By no fault of the poster of course as he is probably the eighth pigeon to carry the info.

The real info I'm following is the budding bromance between Hayes and Gaudreau. Makes one think he would sign here. We will find out in a couple of days. If he signs elsewhere, awesome.

What is this bromance you speak of? Tweets from Hayes or something?

[ForeverFlameFan]

I agree, Chicago is not losing sleep over this one bit.

[Party Elephant]

I'm just curious where the term "Orange Julius rumour" originated?

[jg13]

Originally Posted by Party Elephant

I'm just curious where the term "Orange Julius rumour" originated?

If I recall correctly someone said they over heard someone say something about a trade/NHL rumour while they were in line at orange julius therefore any rumour that has no credibility to it is considered an "orange julius rumour"

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Party Elephant

I'm just curious where the term "Orange Julius rumour" originated?

Here you go (from way back in 2006, regarding Pronger's demand to leave Stinkville)...

Originally Posted by Generik

Even with all the rumors going around, I wouldn't put much substance into this. But yesterday I was grabbing a julius and these guys behind me were talking smack about Mrs. Pronger but one had said that Pronger didn't want to leave anymore.

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

"Guy In Line Getting an Orange Jiulius" is possibly the best source I've EVER heard.

I couldn't even make that up.

hahahahahahahahahahaha. fabulous!

Originally Posted by Auld35

If he had said " A hot dog stand " I would've been sold

Originally Posted by corporatejay

HAHAHA. "guy behind me at the orange julius stand"

hahah, omg i'm literally spitting on my monitor (like all those jim rome fanboys claim to be on his show).

Originally Posted by Generik

It is. But then I forgot to say he had crazy carrot colored hair and a buck teeth smile.

Originally Posted by Barnes

Whhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatf is going on.

...and thus, a legend was born.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

I believe a 2nd in the 2015 draft could easily pan out to being a better player than Hayes. Chicago will likely need that pick and better player 4 years from now over the current Kevin Hayes. They came out ahead IMO.

I'm not sold on Hayes but a late 2nd round pick will never "easily pan out" to be better than anyone. For every Backes or Dubinsky there's about 5 guys who will go on to do nothing of note. The fact that Hayes NHL potential isn't completely 0 at this point would put him in the upper echelon of 2nd round draft picks.

Of course picking Duncan Keith with the 54th pick worked out okay for the Hawks though. I would say very confidently that the Hawks would have rather signed Hayes than grab this compensation pick, in any case they wont see it as the end of the world though.

[Yrebmi]

I had no idea that the Orange Julius thing was a CP original. That's awesome.

[cowtown75]

Originally Posted by MVW

If teams have legitimately not talked to his Hayes or his agent, the most logical thought is that the player himself does not yet know where he is signing. Teams will make offers, he will get a feel for what various organizations are all about, how they run things, where they see him fitting in, some may even want to fly him out to their city. It doesn't make sense to me that he would already know where he's gonna play yet unless teams have tampered in pre-negotiations. That's why I think the Flames have a good shot, 100% you know Johnny and Arnold have talked to him about Calgary, as his brother would of about Florida. I also think Boston has a good shot because of his familiarity with the area, but really nothing would surprise me due to the reasons I stated.

Boston makes zero sense to me as they are a stacked team an a good prospect foundation like Chicago. But, who knows what's going through these guys' heads. Would seem like the same s###, different pile scenerio to me except closer to mommy ?

[Phaneuf_Rules]

Originally Posted by Scoreface

Like others have alluded to, I'd be happy to have him as a RW prospect, but not gonna lose sleep over the whole thing. If the East is better for him I can respect that if family is most important. Otherwise, stay the F out of here. In the prior scenario, stay the eff out of west town, especially as a big higher skilled RW. He could flourish here consisidering our depth there/guys who could slot in there.

A natural r/w is huge, but like I said unless it's for family reasons (Boston/Florida) then stay in the East. Part of his "family" was growing in college at BC with his mates. Maybe he feels he wouldn't break into the NHL with either/both. Whatever. The teddy bear drop happened past spring. Look for a good opportunity and fight tooth and nail to get it. I'd see the opportunity to be teammates with Gaudreau and/or Arnold at either level to be an incentive.

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by cowtown75

Boston makes zero sense to me as they are a stacked team an a good prospect foundation like Chicago. But, who knows what's going through these guys' heads. Would seem like the same s###, different pile scenerio to me except closer to mommy ?

Boston has one of the weakest depth at RW in the league.

Loui Ericksson (if they move him back from LW) and Reilly Smith are the only legitimate NHLers they have for RW. The rest are AHL tweeners (Jordan Caron, Matt Fraser, Jared Knight etc.) The only other option they have is an 18 year old David Pastrnak.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

I'm not sold on Hayes but a late 2nd round pick will never "easily pan out" to be better than anyone. For every Backes or Dubinsky there's about 5 guys who will go on to do nothing of note. The fact that Hayes NHL potential isn't completely 0 at this point would put him in the upper echelon of 2nd round draft picks.

Of course picking Duncan Keith with the 54th pick worked out okay for the Hawks though. I would say very confidently that the Hawks would have rather signed Hayes than grab this compensation pick, in any case they wont see it as the end of the world though.

He did say could be, which i agree with. Imo hayes is worth the shot because he is found money. That being said, i don't hold much hope in him becoming anything. I'm not completely sold on him. If signing meant he would be are 50th contract then i probably wouldn't be interested.

[neo45]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Boston has one of the weakest depth at RW in the league.

Loui Ericksson (if they move him back from LW) and Reilly Smith are the only legitimate NHLers they have for RW. The rest are AHL tweeners (Jordan Caron, Matt Fraser, Jared Knight etc.) The only other option they have is an 18 year old David Pastrnak.

Kind of surprising they didnt go after Stempniak, who lives there in the offseason I believe

[sureLoss]

For those planning on taking tomorrow off for Kevin Hayes watch, don't bother.

The CBA says the Hawks have his rights up to and including August 15th. Therefore the earliest he can sign is August 16th.

[Poe969]

So is sportsnet doing an "Summer Days of Hayes" or is it still TSN?