08-12-2014, 05:11 PM
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#21
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by FBI
Yeah so far Johnny has impressed more than Bennett. I am hoping both are awesome franchise cornerstones.
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That is to be expected. Bennett turned 18 the week before the draft. Johnny turns 21 tomorrow. He's a more developed player.
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08-12-2014, 11:42 PM
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#22
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
Pronman isn't a fan of Poirier, he projected him as a 3rd round pick in his 2013 draft rankings.
I believe he has admitted on twitter that Poirier is a good prospect since then, but isn't dynamic enough for him to be considered a great prospect.
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Pronman also has remained high on Shinkaruk as well. Seems to really love Hunter.
As for the comments about Nylander - Nylander may very well end up being the best pick of the draft. Many scouts felt he had the highest offensive potential out there. I think this draft will always be an interesting one to look back to as really there was so much more potential to be the 'best player' in the draft as opposed to the last few (MacKinnon, Drouin, Barkov as the best forwards last year, but can't remember much talk about anyone else except for maybe Nichushkin as the best forward).
You had different scouts or even different media outlets proclaiming Reinhart, Bennett, Nylander, Ehlers, Ritchie and I forget who else as the possible 'best pick'. Nylander, however, did have some sort of a little consensus going as the highest offensively capable player in the draft. I was sad to see him go to Toronto.
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08-13-2014, 12:05 AM
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#23
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FBI
Yeah so far Johnny has impressed more than Bennett. I am hoping both are awesome franchise cornerstones.
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uh one guy is 3 years older...I like JG as much as the next guy but come on
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08-13-2014, 12:38 AM
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#24
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: The Bay Area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vulcan
I don't see how Barkov can still be regarded as a prospect after playing 54 games in the NHL last season.
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Hertl, too. I don't get it either.
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08-13-2014, 12:49 AM
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#25
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the2bears
Hertl, too. I don't get it either.
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Jacob Trouba played more than all of them last year. The cut-off for games played doesn't seem very sensible at all. If anything, it should be less than half a season, and that should also factor in things like injuries. Hertl would have played every game in SJ last season had he not been injured. Same with Barkov.
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08-13-2014, 07:08 AM
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#26
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Gaudreau's size is still a big detriment. Whether we like it or not, really small players are considered long shots, and it is probably justified.
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08-13-2014, 07:47 AM
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#27
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Just one man's opinion guys. Nice to read for sure just to see where a guy thinks your guys are but by no means an authority or consensus on the best prospects. Nothing to fret over and in the end it's the players that will determine who turn out to be the best NHLers.
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08-13-2014, 07:52 AM
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#28
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Gaudreau's size is still a big detriment. Whether we like it or not, really small players are considered long shots, and it is probably justified.
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Most of the time, yes, it is justified. But I think with all that Gaudreau has accomplished in the past three years, these concerns have been dramatically mitigated. There is simply too much evidence from his past performances to quell expectations; he's not like any other small player.
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08-13-2014, 08:28 AM
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#29
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PlayfulGenius
Was Sven not on the list?
Who are the players in the 90-100 range?
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Sven is ineligible. He technically isn't a prospect since he played 26 games last season. If he played 24 he probably would have been about 60 on that list.
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08-13-2014, 05:13 PM
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#30
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Gaudreau's size is still a big detriment. Whether we like it or not, really small players are considered long shots, and it is probably justified.
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Personally, I like it. It's how we ended up with the Gaud
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08-13-2014, 05:34 PM
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#31
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Gaudreau's size is still a big detriment. Whether we like it or not, really small players are considered long shots, and it is probably justified.
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I think the biggest one is his age, most of the guys on the list are 17-19
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08-13-2014, 06:44 PM
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#32
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vulcan
I don't see how Barkov can still be regarded as a prospect after playing 54 games in the NHL last season.
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It came out 4 months ago.. they were still playing there rookie seasons
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08-13-2014, 07:24 PM
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#33
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yanda
It came out 4 months ago.. they were still playing there rookie seasons
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I guess than we should expect Monahan to be also on their list.
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08-13-2014, 08:44 PM
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#34
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Pronman, just like anyone, gets tunnel vision for some prospects, while ignoring others.
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08-13-2014, 09:56 PM
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#35
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Draft Pick
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Gaudreau not being in the top 10 is laughable.
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08-13-2014, 10:13 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MVW
Gaudreau not being in the top 10 is laughable.
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It's actually very arguable, especially from a guy who watches top prospects as much as Pronman.
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08-13-2014, 10:26 PM
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#37
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Chair
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
Pronman, just like anyone, gets tunnel vision for some prospects, while ignoring others.
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Like Kirill Kabanov, who he ranked #4 in 2010.
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08-13-2014, 10:28 PM
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#38
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Draft Pick
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Originally Posted by Mitch
It's actually very arguable, especially from a guy who watches top prospects as much as Pronman.
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No it's not, actually I don't even know how it's a debate. I have him as a top 5 prospect myself and that's not me being a homer either. Gaudreau has shattered all expectations for his development each year since being drafted. It's hard to argue there is a prospect that is not currently playing in the NHL that has accomplished more than he has.
Each and every single prospect has a bust factor, and every single one is ranked based on potential because they have yet to do it in the NHL. I'm fine people with saying Gaudreau has higher bust potential based on his size, but having a guy like Nylander in the top 5 (who has a high bust factor himself) over Gaudreau based on all that he has accomplished, is almost impossible to justify. It's an obvious player bias by Pronman and it's a joke.
Last edited by MVW; 08-13-2014 at 10:37 PM.
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08-13-2014, 10:33 PM
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#39
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jemjey
Personally, I like it. It's how we ended up with the Gaud
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I really hope this doesn't become a thing, just sounds creepy.
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08-13-2014, 10:41 PM
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#40
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mitch
It's actually very arguable, especially from a guy who watches top prospects as much as Pronman.
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Mitch....come on now, I can see the argument of having him outside the top 10...but seriously top 40...lol
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