NHL 15 Thread

[Russic]

Originally Posted by Red John

This game like all the others will be unplayable as long as EA denies that ice tilt exists and does nothing to fix it.

They always waste their time with useless crap like authentic arenas but ignore vital things like OvP and HUT online being rigged based on the level of the player you're playing against and what the score is at a certain point in the game.

This is what it must feel like to be an Oilers fan. Frustration that the main issues are never being acknowledged let alone fixed and knowing that nothing will ever change because they are making way too much money off said inferior product.

Really? In all modes? I've never really noticed it to be honest. I've noticed that in intense situations my opponents strategies often change and I get nervous and make stupid decisions.

[Red John]

Haven't really noticed it in offline modes but online HUT and ovp are the two main ones.

If you're playing an inferior opponent and outshooting them, you'll often run into a hot goalie whilst your own goalie lets in a couple soft ones.

Also you will notice this tilt happen mid-game. If you get the first two goals, the other players will immediately begin skating faster, pucks will magically come off your stick and onto theirs, and their goalie will make a couple impossible saves. Yours will give up a goal on a long easy wrister.

Also this tilt comes in during the last minute of the 3rd period to whichever team is trailing. The amount of game-tying goals in the last minute is abnormal. Understandably EA is trying to even things out and keep all games close but that isn't fair to the players who are better at the game.

Check out youtube examples of ice-tilt. There are some hilarious examples.

[psicodude]

Yeah, it happens offline as well. I have outshot an opponent 35 - 7 and lost 2 - 0. The CPU goalie can't be beaten and your goalie let's in shots from the red line. Incredibly frustrating.

[Arya Stark]

Originally Posted by psicodude

Yeah, it happens offline as well. I have outshot an opponent 35 - 7 and lost 2 - 0. The CPU goalie can't be beaten and your goalie let's in shots from the red line. Incredibly frustrating.

Just the other day I was out shooting the Panthers 23-6 and losing 5-0.

[psicodude]

Originally Posted by Arya Stark

Just the other day I was out shooting the Panthers 23-6 and losing 5-0.

Yeah, I would probably send my controller through the TV.

You can usually tell that it's going to be a tilted game a few minutes in, so I just laugh at the stupid AI and try to keep the puck away from them for the entire game.

[Ashasx]

Ice tilt definitely exists.

[Chill Cosby]

Originally Posted by Arya Stark

Just the other day I was out shooting the Panthers 23-6 and losing 5-0.

Sounds like you suck.

[Regular_John]

Yeah I've noticed the "ice-tilt" phenomenon for sure, up by 2 goals with 3 minutes left? Next two scoring chances convert. Only way to avoid is to not allow a shot on goal or block it, cuz if it reaches the net, it's going in.

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by Red John

This game like all the others will be unplayable as long as EA denies that ice tilt exists and does nothing to fix it.

Well considering you have an issue with something that doesn't exist, you may never be able to play the game.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by Joborule

Well considering you have an issue with something that doesn't exist, you may never be able to play the game.

I'm so sick of people bringing up ice tilt. It doesn't exist.

[Red John]

Originally Posted by Joborule

Well considering you have an issue with something that doesn't exist, you may never be able to play the game.

You're saying that the number of game tying goals scored in the last minute of the 3rd period is the exact same as any other minute of the game?

Curious to see if you're actually going to make that argument.

[TjRhythmic]

Originally Posted by Red John

You're saying that the number of game tying goals scored in the last minute of the 3rd period is the exact same as any other minute of the game?

Curious to see if you're actually going to make that argument.

Are you suggesting that a team down by a goal or 2 in the final minutes of a game play EXACTLY the same as at the start of the game?

Are you not expecting some sort of "push" to try and tie the game?

I'm curious because any sport that I watched, and played, the trailing team usually finds that extra gear. Heck at times I've seen Calgary play like a team possessed trying to tie up a game... Always made me think, "why didn't they play like this the whole game?"

[Red John]

Originally Posted by TjRhythmic

Are you suggesting that a team down by a goal or 2 in the final minutes of a game play EXACTLY the same as at the start of the game?

Are you not expecting some sort of "push" to try and tie the game?

I'm curious because any sport that I watched, and played, the trailing team usually finds that extra gear. Heck at times I've seen Calgary play like a team possessed trying to tie up a game... Always made me think, "why didn't they play like this the whole game?"

The problem is EA has never figured out how to improve the AI to make smarter decisions in these final moments. Instead of making the AI smarter they compensate by just boosting the players and nerfing your goalie so that a last-gasp shots goes in, even if it's a backhander from the point.

Besides this isn't real life athletes, it's a computer simulation so the "final push" isn't the same. Why shouldn't the leading team get a boost also in the final minute as they "push" to seal the deal? In real life, it's usually both teams that turn it up near the end.

A lot of top online players will purposely not dress a 5-star lineup in HUT online because of ice tilt. It's easier to win with a weaker lineup.

That's wrong.

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by Red John

The problem is EA has never figured out how to improve the AI to make smarter decisions in these final moments. Instead of making the AI smarter they compensate by just boosting the players and nerfing your goalie so that a last-gasp shots goes in, even if it's a backhander from the point.

Do you have any proof of this? Because the fact is that the AI becomes more desperate in it's attack, thus the AI strategy changes to all out attack and they are much more incline to move the puck quickly and shoot. I would agree that they is some issues in how quickly the AI react, and how drastic it could play from earlier on, but it's not a case of attributes being boosted while your goalie intentionally lets shots get by them. The goalies let in some very bad goals at any point in the game, so when the AI is shooting from any point in the zone, those are gonna go by sometimes.

A lot of top online players will purposely not dress a 5-star lineup in HUT online because of ice tilt. It's easier to win with a weaker lineup.

In my experience online, I think it's more of the case of the players being better at setting up, and taking better advantage of their chances, and limiting their opposing players. I know if my lineup isn't that strong I try to play a more defensively sound game and look for counter attacks.

[SuperMatt18]

The one thing that I always noticed was the weak goals late in the game, and that has nothing to do with tactics.

Have a 3-1 lead in the 3rd period and there are about 5 minutes left and a floater from the point is going in the back of the net guaranteed.

I found it really bad in NHL 14 and actually didn't play that game as much as any in the past due to it.

[bubbsy]

i'm not sure about any icetilt personally. I find it becomes more a mental thing if i start going down that route.

I give up playing online about a month or 2 after the release date, as that is when i find folks have figured out how to glitch, and the game doesn't feel natural any more (ie. players trying to setup realistic opportunities).

Offline, i just wish that it were possible to have realistic shooting %. My team's % seems reasonable (ie. i'll score 2-5 goals on 30 shots). However, the CPU scores between 0-5 on 8-12 shots. The only way to win is not to keep shots to the outside, but to not allow shots period. As a result, my goalie is usually top 10 in GAA, but their save % is lucky to be in the 0.700s.

bashing aside, i picked up the xbox1 this weekend. don't have any games, so am sitting waiting eagerly for NHL15, as hockey games are the only thing that keep me gaming. so good or bad, i'll play the game for 100-150 hours until the next version comes out, and yet will still be happy to critique it here

[tknez16]

Originally Posted by Red John

You're saying that the number of game tying goals scored in the last minute of the 3rd period is the exact same as any other minute of the game?

Curious to see if you're actually going to make that argument.

Isn't the last minute of the third the only minute that's in real time (when you aren't playing 20 minute periods)? I think that would explain the last minute goal frequency.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by Resurrection

I'm so sick of people bringing up ice tilt. It doesn't exist.

It does though. The last game to come out on PC (can't remember what year) modders found TONS of evidence of an ice tilt mechanic in the game, and nothing has changed since then.

We should be getting a demo soon, the release date isn't that far away.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by codynw

It does though. The last game to come out on PC (can't remember what year) modders found TONS of evidence of an ice tilt mechanic in the game, and nothing has changed since then.

We should be getting a demo soon, the release date isn't that far away.

Not a very good example. NHL 09 is a long time ago.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Not a very good example. NHL 09 is a long time ago.

It really wasn't that long ago, and they haven't done anything to make me believe they took it out of the game.