Twitter account shames 'D-bag' Calgary parkers

[Acey]

Originally Posted by Chill Cosby

I come from the belief that you give the benefit of the doubt, which is what I think you should do. To me, that's part of common courtesy. If someone parked beside me and there was a 88% they were just a jerk, I'm going to take the 12% and give them the benefit of the doubt. If you think 88% are jerks, well then I speak for the 12% and ask "Hey, can you not lump us in?" It's a simple ask. Not meant as anything more than that.

My point in the last few posts is that you don't have to be a jerk to hit the guy beside you. Accidents happen. I don't feel there has to be a correlation between parking away from other people and assuming 100% of people are jerks.

We can go ahead and assume everyone on this planet is lovely, but even lovely people will accident hit your car so again, why not walk a few extra seconds and eliminate the possibility since I love my car? Seems perfectly reasonable to me.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by pylon

Either way, you have one side saying. "It would be nice if someone respected my space a bit, and used some common courtesy. And I will extend that common courtesy to others."

Then you have the other side saying. "I don't care what you think, I'm gonna do what I want whether you like it or not. Screw you." Even though they are benefitting from the courteous side whether they know it or not.

Who's the jerk in that equation?

That isn't what was said though. It was more like, why are car guys calling people out as jerks for parking next to them, when they have no reason to think that it was some intentional slight to them.

Unless you frequent that parking lot every day, how would you know you didn't just park in a place that somebody uses as their regular park & ride spot; other people have come and gone since you parked; or have some other motivation for parking there, like myself and others have said, it is just on a whim that you got tired of hunting for a parking spot and just took the first one you saw when you gave up.

Instead, people's psyche goes to this dark place where the only possible reason to park there is that they must trying to screw around with you.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Instead, people's psyche goes to this dark place where the only possible reason to park there is that they must trying to screw around with you.

http://psychcentral.com/encyclopedia...noid-delusion/

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by pylon

What a bizarre thing to take offense to.

It's not an elitist term at all. It is more a term for a guy that loves cars, and takes a large amount of pride in his vehicle. I have nothing special. I have a VW Tiguan I lease through work, and an '08 BMW 135i worth maybe 25k. You could be a car guy, and own a 87 Ford Tempo. It's more about your attitude towards your cars, and how you care for them.

I baby my stuff, and have aneurisms over rock chips, dings, and worry more about what I put in my cars than my own body. I enjoy the 2-3 hours I spend each weekend cleaning wheels, waxing, and detailing my stuff. I am currently having a massive amount of emotional anxiety, because the shift knob leather in my BMW has some unusual wear on it, and I cannot fathom the idea of a not perfect shiny knob.

Well the thing is that one poster was upset because in his eyes a piece of crap car was parked next to his. Maybe it was the 87 Ford Tempo that you used as an example, so that's why I took his rant as elitist.

I can see taking care with picking parking spots, I do the same with my motorcycle. If I'm parking it in a lot, I don't steer it into the back of the spot as other cars won't see that the spot is occupied but I don't get all bent out of shape when some car parks next to me either. If you want to see someone get anal about parking, you should try riding a motorcycle. For one thing you're seemingly invisible to a lot of drivers and also in most cases you don't have a reverse gear so parking on inclines is problematic. A lot of times I'll park illegally near the entrance or near the bike rack. Anywhere it's visible and can't be run over by some car or truck and the business' never seem to complain but I could see being outed by some of the posters on this board as an evil human being. One time in a parking lot I chained it to a light pole. Another time in a sketchy motel, I took it inside the room.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by pylon

You're the narcissist.

Ahh yes. The time-honoured debate tactic known as "I know you are but what am I?"

[Chill Cosby]

Originally Posted by Acey

My point in the last few posts is that you don't have to be a jerk to hit the guy beside you. Accidents happen. I don't feel there has to be a correlation between parking away from other people and assuming 100% of people are jerks.

We can go ahead and assume everyone on this planet is lovely, but even lovely people will accident hit your car so again, why not walk a few extra seconds and eliminate the possibility since I love my car? Seems perfectly reasonable to me.

Agreed, I don't think there is anything wrong with parking in the wilderness. In the past, I've parked beside those people without really knowing it was about protection, so now maybe my philosophy changes a bit.

[pylon]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

If you want to see someone get anal about parking, you should try riding a motorcycle. For one thing you're seemingly invisible to a lot of drivers and also in most cases you don't have a reverse gear so parking on inclines is problematic. A lot of times I'll park illegally near the entrance or near the bike rack. Anywhere it's visible and can't be run over by some car or truck and the business' never seem to complain but I could see being outed by some of the posters on this board as an evil human being. One time in a parking lot I chained it to a light pole. Another time in a sketchy motel, I took it inside the room.

I do. In fact, I ride...... a Vulcan.

[pylon]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Ahh yes. The time-honoured debate tactic known as "I know you are but what am I?"

But you are.

Your mantra is, I don't care about your property or personal space, all that matters to me is my agenda.

While I still care about my property and personal space, I choose to respect yours as well.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by pylon

I do. In fact, I ride...... a Vulcan.

I use to ride a Vulcan and liked it for a time but soon found it to be poor handling, slow and unexciting.

[pylon]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

I use to ride a Vulcan and liked it for a time but soon found it to be poor handling, slow and unexciting.

Yeah, I know, it's a giant POS. It's basically a 2 wheeled chesterfield. But it has it's place.

My 02 M900S2 however.... not have I had a funner all rounder than my 2001 VFR.

[jammies]

Originally Posted by pylon

Park right next to me for all I care, that's your perogative. But in a near empty lot, we are questioning why someone would go out of their way to do that. I makes absolutely no sense for either side.

I do things for no reason whatsoever, just because. You do the same, it's just that humans are excellent at post-facto reasoning so you don't even realize it.

Am I a better person than you because I realize this? Well, maybe, and maybe not, but definitely less involved in justifying myself and my motivations, and also less uptight about what other people may do and think, as long as it's not actually affecting me. Stare at my dong all you want, for example - it is a fine, healthy specimen of which I begrudge you no joy in being fascinated.

Here's a famous old maxim that will save you endless hours of navel-gazing pain:

Don't sweat the small stuff.

[pylon]

Originally Posted by jammies

I do things for no reason whatsoever, just because. You do the same, it's just that humans are excellent at post-facto reasoning so you don't even realize it.

Am I a better person than you because I realize this? Well, maybe, and maybe not, but definitely less involved in justifying myself and my motivations, and also less uptight about what other people may do and think, as long as it's not actually affecting me. Stare at my dong all you want, for example - it is a fine, healthy specimen of which I begrudge you no joy in being fascinated.

Here's a famous old maxim that will save you endless hours of navel-gazing pain:

Don't sweat the small stuff.

I live by the live and let live mantra.

But when someones carelessness damages my property, that's kinda where I draw the line.

[jammies]

Originally Posted by pylon

I live by the live and let live mantra..

That ain't the vibe I'm feeling over here...

[Huntingwhale]

Came into this thread hoping to see hilarious pics of people being shamed.

Instead I have no idea wtf is happening.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by pylon

Yeah, I know, it's a giant POS. It's basically a 2 wheeled chesterfield. But it has it's place.

My 02 M900S2 however.... not have I had a funner all rounder than my 2001 VFR.

Ducati, that was a love hate relationship and I do like my VFR too.

[Peanut]

My ideal parking scenario is a vehicle on one side, and open space on the other. The vehicle helps me make sure I'm between the lines in my own space, and the empty space beside me gives me room to get out and also room to make a mistake parking which sometimes happens.

I also hate trolling the parking lot for the spots close to the doors, parking lot exit, elevators, or what have you. So I frequently drive to the less populated parts of the parking lot and then park beside someone.

Maybe it's not narcissistic ######bags parking beside your lonely car guy car, it's just somewhat ####ty women parkers?

[Shawnski]

Originally Posted by Peanut

...the empty space beside me gives me room to get out....

Yes, YOU then have room to get out, but you have taken said "room" from someone else.

Like me with the bum knee and long doors.

it is perfectly OK to do so, but is it courteous?

[awildermode]

^^ you two have the best avatars on Calgary Puck

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by Shawnski

Yes, YOU then have room to get out, but you have taken said "room" from someone else.

Like me with the bum knee and long doors.

it is perfectly OK to do so, but is it courteous?

Ummm, what? I'm supposed to magically infer that you have bad knees - bad enough that you need extra space to get into the car but NOT bad enough to prevent you from parking as far away from the doors as possible - and need extra room to get out of your car, and therefore it's only courteous for me to not park beside you? The only reason I prefer more open parking spots is because my vehicle is large and I'm not that good at parking. It's not because I feel entitled to the extra space to open my door and get out. I've hit vehicles by accident in parking lots before and I'd prefer to not do that again. So... Yeah. I do actually think I'm being courteous by actively trying to mitigate hitting other vehicles.

PS your avatar inspired my avatar.

[Shawnski]

LOL at the avatar stuff.

OK Peanut, follow me here.

As I quoted from you above, part of the reason you park beside someone is that you have open space to get out (and presumably in) as you leave an open spot on your drivers side. If someone has parked well away from others, would it not be likely that this is also something they desired as well?

Now what is the effect of that action? Well, the person on your right no longer has that open spot. Their door likely doesn't open 100%. It might only open 50%. Maybe more, maybe less. Your action has thus restricted that person's room to get out/in.

Now you are also saying you have a bigger vehicle so the space between yours and the other persons is reduced even more.

At what point (regardless of bum knee syndrome) are you:

A) impeding their door to open enough to get in (remember, some vehicles have very long doors, like my '97 Grand Prix GT, 2 door....)
B) risking your vehicle being dented by their door

Even at two feet between another vehicle and mine, I MUST hold the door from opening to a natural resting middle hinge spot as I try to squeeze in if I can get in at all (as I noted in an example previously about a 3/4 ton van). That natural middle hinge location is ~26" from the tip of my door to the side of my car. Fully opened, it is about 38".

(Photon, your kids science project could use that type of data! LOL.)

Bottom line is that in order for you to achieve one of your desires (open on your left), you have likely taken that same aspect away from someone else.

What you think is courteous. isn't.... logically.

Now again, this is all talking about parking well away from others, with lots of options. NOT in a busy/full lot.