[Signing] Flames sign Joni Ortio to two-year deal

[codynw]

Too much money for too long. Bad signing, 0/10. FIRE TRELIVING NOW

[nik-]

Originally Posted by DOOM

The Flames qualified him, so they must have interest in signing him.

Perhaps the are looking to to trade his rights somewhere.

I had actually totally not realized that they qualified him.

[Fischy13]

Isn't Bouma also in need of a contract or did I miss tha signing?

[DOOM]

Originally Posted by Fischy13

Isn't Bouma also in need of a contract or did I miss tha signing?

Yea, cant believe I forgot to mention him, haha. I'm sure we will see a deal get done soon.

[Fire]

2 years $1.9 million total would be my guess.

2015-16 you will probably see Hiller and Ortio in the NHL and Gillies in the AHL. No room for Ramo.

[AC]

I can't wait for Bouma to get signed, I love that guy.

[DOOM]

Originally Posted by Fire

2 years $1.9 million total would be my guess.

2015-16 you will probably see Hiller and Ortio in the NHL and Gillies in the AHL. No room for Ramo.

Yea, that's they way I see it playing out also, although it all depends on how Ortio/Ramo play this year.

2014/2015

NHL
Hiller
Ramo


AHL

Ortio
Thiessen



2015/2016

NHL

Hiller
Ortio


AHL

Gillies
_____


2016/2017

NHL

???
Ortio

AHL

Gillies
MacDonald

[TheDebaser]

I think the flames are going to need to make a smart trade or two in goal.

[Nehkara]

Originally Posted by TheDebaser

I think the flames are going to need to make a smart trade or two in goal.

Eventually if one of the young guys develops into an NHL caliber #1, yes.

I would be thrilled if we, down the road, had a 1a/1b of Gillies/Ortio.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Nehkara

Eventually if one of the young guys develops into an NHL caliber #1, yes.

I would be thrilled if we, down the road, had a 1a/1b of Gillies/Ortio.

I can see that happening, just like Andersen and Gibson did to Hiller. Hiller getting bumped twice in a row would be kind of funny .

[BACKCHECK!!!]

Goalies are voodoo.

Anybody trying to predict that a goalie will have future success playing at a higher level needs to have their head checked.

Lots of teams don't even know how good their own goalie is, even at the level at which they are currently playing.

SJ had the best goalie on the planet in 2003, and they had him in the lineup behind Vesa Toskala. The Flames dressed Berra 30+ times before realizing he was awful, and based on the same body of work Colorado decided he was good enough to be worth a 2nd rounder.

Forget predicting future performance, its hard enough to tell how good a goalie is right now, when he's on the ice in front of you and playing at the level where you want to evaluate him.

Anyways, congrats Ortio. I'm not going to bet the farm, but we're all rootin' for ya.

[sureLoss]

Treliving says the deal is 2 way in the first year and 1 way in the 2nd year.

[Psytic]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

This is a great problem to have. I have a feeling we see an Anaheim situation soon, where Ortio and Gillies start playing better than Ramo.

Good let's over ripen them so they have all the confidence in the world when they come up and don't end up like McElhaney.

[DOOM]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Treliving says the deal is 2 way in the first year and 1 way in the 2nd year.

Im assuming he's waiver exempt this year?

I know its a 1 way deal in the 2nd year, but if it was a two way deal would he still be exposed to waivers?

[Nehkara]

Originally Posted by DOOM

Im assuming he's waiver exempt this year?

I know its a 1 way deal in the 2nd year, but if it was a two way deal would he still be exposed to waivers?

Treliving said they are free to send him up and down as they need this season.

[sureLoss]

waiver status is not determined by if a contract is 1 way or 2 way.

it is soley based on what age the player signed his first contract, how many years have passed since signing that contract and/or NHL games played.

there are no re-entry waivers anymore so players are free to be called up from the AHL at will.

[DOOM]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

waiver status is not determined by if a contract is 1 way or 2 way.

I know, I guess I didn't worth that properly, was just curious if he will be exposed to waivers next year or not. He will be 24, so I think he will have to pass through waivers if he doesn't make the team.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by DOOM

I know, I guess I didn't worth that properly, was just curious if he will be exposed to waivers next year or not. He will be 24, so I think he will have to pass through waivers if he doesn't make the team.

No he will not be exempt from waivers next year.

He will also not be exempt from waivers this year after/if he plays more than 63 NHL games this year.

source: capgeek's waiver calculator

[Nehkara]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

No he will not be exempt from waivers next year.

He will also not be exempt from waivers this year after/if he plays more than 63 NHL games this year.

source: capgeek's waiver calculator

Thanks sureLoss. I just found out about that waiver calculator... it's awesome.

[Fire]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

No he will not be exempt from waivers next year.

He will also not be exempt from waivers this year after/if he plays more than 63 NHL games this year.

source: capgeek's waiver calculator

Pretty much guarantees him an NHL spot next season assuming he doesn't crap the bed this season.