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Old 07-19-2014, 07:12 PM   #141
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If that happens, then Athiests will be in a precarious position.
They won't have any easy targets left (ie: Christianity).

athiests wouldn't dare criticize Islam!
So the Athiesm Lobby would essentially die off.
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Muslims won't stop till every other religion is wiped off the planet. But hey ho religion of peace etc etc
And this is why all of you should make your children do the book learnin'.
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Old 07-19-2014, 07:39 PM   #142
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If that happens, then Athiests will be in a precarious position.
They won't have any easy targets left (ie: Christianity).

athiests wouldn't dare criticize Islam!
So the Athiesm Lobby would essentially die off.
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Old 07-19-2014, 08:46 PM   #143
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If that happens, then Athiests will be in a precarious position.
They won't have any easy targets left (ie: Christianity).

athiests wouldn't dare criticize Islam!
So the Athiesm Lobby would essentially die off.
Wtf??? Atheist's criticize all cul...I mean religions. You do know a lot of the people who shaped this world are Atheists right ? The USA founding Fathers ,Bill gates,Devinci , Galilaio, Aristotle Eienstein The Curies, Tesla, Sir Issac Newton etc etc. Almost every majour influence in the the progression on intellectual progression of man was an Atheist. Religions ( Norse, Greeks, durids, sun worshiping etc) have come and gone.Scientific minds of progression have always stayed. You can't kill of any particular group. You would have to eliminate free will and independent thinking as a whole. Impossible without these types of science oriented minds.

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Old 07-19-2014, 09:28 PM   #144
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Neither will Christians! Inquisition anyone?
Don't forget the Crusades. And WW2 attack on The Jewish. Hitler was not an Atheist as so many people try to say. He was a Christian.

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the best you can dig up is something from the middle ages? wow.
I don't think the point was to compare/contrast Christianity with Islam, it was that the Inquisitions did stop.

It's incredibly easy to look at another religion or another culture or another country and judge how terrible or immoral or inferior or stupid they are in contrast with our religion or culture or country.

But would I be any different if I'd been born into that situation? Look at the video of the rocket being launched with the children. Are they human shields? Looks more like they being trained into the same patterns of hate and violence by their parents and community.

If I'm raised to think a religion justifies an Inquisition or taking slaves or genocide or misogyny or whatever, then more often than not that's what I'll think and act on. If I don't most likely it's because I've been given an alternative view.
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Newton got in lots of trouble about his religious views, but definitely not because he was an atheist. "Atheism is so senseless and odious to mankind that it never had many professors." - Newton.

But comparing religious views of historical figures in today's context is problematic in the same way as comparing cultures.. The environments are so radically different.
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Muslims won't stop till every other way of life is wiped off the planet. But hey ho religion of peace etc etc
Since radical muslims think its the only way, religion is only one part.
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I think John Lennon said it best.

" Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people living life in peace "



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Old 07-19-2014, 11:04 PM   #149
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Don't forget the Crusades. And WW2 attack on The Jewish. Hitler was not an Atheist as so many people try to say. He was a Christian.
You are uninformed vis-a-vis Hitler.


In July 1941 Hitler stated: National Socialism and religion cannot exist together... The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of christianity.... Let it not be said that christianity brought man the life of the sould, for that evolution was in the natural order of things.

later (Nov ) he said:
Christianity is a rebellion against natural law. a protest against nature. taken to its logical extreme, christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of human failure.

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christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity
christianity is an invention of sick brains.

Here is a goodie, one of the Hitler Youth organizations most popular marching songs:
We follow not Christ, but Horst Wessel
Away with incense and holy water
the church can go hang for all we care
the Swastika brings salvation on earth.

Sounds more like an athiest to me. Aside from the swastika part, it in fact sounds a lot lot many athiests i know.
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Old 07-19-2014, 11:08 PM   #150
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So I'm talking to my good friend Muscle today and he tells me about Calgary Puck and how he was banned. So I'm like yeah, I used to post there as well but it's been a few years since I posted there.

Pylon and his little buddies are the ones that should be getting banned, especially since I asked him to apologise and he runs away like the little coward that he is after falsely accusing my friend of being a racist and an xenophobe.

MuscleOnTheBlvd is not a racist or an xenophobe. Why you all so insecure and quick to judge people because you disagree with them?

I fail to see what he said here that's so racist. Where did he use derogatory racist terms? Telling someone to go back to where they came from is not racist and is merely a figure of speech, a suggestion to smarten up if you will.

So you falsely accuse the guy and then just ban him for no reason. Just apologise to the guy and reinstate him. Thanks.
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DionPlett, do I have your permission to post the PM conversation we just had?

Also I would also love the board to take a look at this users history and read his last post in 2010, before he made this one.
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So I'm talking to my good friend Muscle today and he tells me about Calgary Puck and how he was banned. So I'm like yeah, I used to post there as well but it's been a few years since I posted there.

Pylon and his little buddies are the ones that should be getting banned, especially since I asked him to apologise and he runs away like the little coward that he is after falsely accusing my friend of being a racist and an xenophobe.

MuscleOnTheBlvd is not a racist or an xenophobe. Why you all so insecure and quick to judge people because you disagree with them?

I fail to see what he said here that's so racist. Where did he use derogatory racist terms? Telling someone to go back to where they came from is not racist and is merely a figure of speech, a suggestion to smarten up if you will.

So you falsely accuse the guy and then just ban him for no reason. Just apologise to the guy and reinstate him. Thanks.
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Signed muscle or his parent.. I mean dionplatt

Don't be that guy . seriously Its a world wide web he should of expected it. I've had a few scuff ups with pylon myself. Those were discussions that were not over the edge . we both had some respect and didn't cross the line. If any thing I respect him more for him sticking to his convections. If you have to say "I'm not racist but" 9/10 times you are. Coming on this board on behalf of him just to ruffle feathers is most likely going to hurt your cause. No one was responsible for His Action's that lead to a ban . The one person that is responsible for ones self is their self.

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Old 07-19-2014, 11:21 PM   #153
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I think John Lennon said it best.

" Imagine there's no heaven
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No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people living life in peace "


He was definitely right when he said "I'm not the only one" in that classic.
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Telling someone to go back to where they came from is not racist
Actually it is. It assumes the someone is not from here, and always due to the colour of their skin.
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DionPlett, do I have your permission to post the PM conversation we just had?

Also I would also love the board to take a look at this users history and read his last post in 2010, before he made this one.
Why didn't you apologise like I asked you to?

So I had an opinion on gay marriage which was a hot topic at the time, so what?

Just apologise to my friend.
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DO I have your permission to post the PM's? Yes or no?
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jonesy, Hitlers statements were a smokescreen.
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Why didn't you apologise like I asked you to?

So I had an opinion on gay marriage which was a hot topic at the time, so what?

Just apologise to my friend.
Pylon is his own person. He doesn't have to do anything any one else tells him too. Why don't you just get lost. This online community does not need the drama you bring talk about this thread topic or go back to pm ing
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How about lets just not post PM's or even ask to post them, there's a reason there called "private messages" afterall.
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You are uninformed vis-a-vis Hitler.


In July 1941 Hitler stated: National Socialism and religion cannot exist together... The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of christianity.... Let it not be said that christianity brought man the life of the sould, for that evolution was in the natural order of things.

later (Nov ) he said:
Christianity is a rebellion against natural law. a protest against nature. taken to its logical extreme, christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of human failure.

more:
christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity
christianity is an invention of sick brains.

Here is a goodie, one of the Hitler Youth organizations most popular marching songs:
We follow not Christ, but Horst Wessel
Away with incense and holy water
the church can go hang for all we care
the Swastika brings salvation on earth.

Sounds more like an athiest to me. Aside from the swastika part, it in fact sounds a lot lot many athiests i know.
You forget the Victors of war right the history. My friend who grew up in Germany was taught the Allies were the evil force set out the destroy the world in schools.

With regards to the swastika . Hitler stole that symbol . It was originally part of the culture of Inda for 5000 years before the Nazis used it.

And the chant was used to indocernate youth into believing he was like a god.


I am not uninformed my dear sir. I had family that had fought on behalf of both sides of the War. I am a HUGE history/Ethology/Electrical buff.

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