Israelis cheer as Gaza is bombed. Disgusting both sides cheer when they bomb the other. The country's have really indoctrinated the population.
You realize there are equal videos of Palestinians cheering terrorists. Not only are you generalizing a population but you are making up their motives. The people on that ridge have been under a constant barrage of rockets for the last ten years. Some are obviously going to be excited about the army taking action.
People are willing to rationalize the Palestinian population elected Hamas but a few people cheering military action means "indoctrination" of the population?
Wow Blankall you can't be serious. Both sides cheering these actions is despicable.
Israel and Israelis can do no wrong in your eyes.
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The people on that ridge have been under a constant barrage of rockets for the last ten years. Some are obviously going to be excited about the army taking action.
So that makes it right? By your standards the Palestinians cheering on the terrorists is also fine since their families have not had rockets fired at them and 99.9% of the time missed, they've had bombs drop on their houses and wipe out entire families.
Wow Blankall you can't be serious. Both sides cheering these actions is despicable.
Israel and Israelis can do no wrong in your eyes.
So that makes it right? By your standards the Palestinians cheering on the terrorists is also fine since their families have not had rockets fired at them and 99.9% of the time missed, they've had bombs drop on their houses and wipe out entire families.
No my issue was with how a few people cheering meant the "population" had been indoctrinated.
In conflicts like this you can't expect all the people to act civil all the time. Yet every time we see an Israeli make a distasteful statement or action it must be indicative of the population as a whole.
Not only that the poster was clearly reading motivation into the actions without any sympathy towards their situation.
Basically it's no different than saying that all Palestinians are barbaric terrorists.
Wow Blankall you can't be serious. Both sides cheering these actions is despicable.
I have no problem with people supporting their military. This is no different. Hamas has fired rockets for months and you MADE ZERO POSTS. Now that Israel fires back you complain. People there depend on their military to stay alive. Without the IDF Hamas would have killed everyone. Without Hamas maybe there would be a chance for peace.
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Who cares if one is cheering for their "side"? People got out and lost their mind when Osama died. Why wouldn't the Israelis and Palestinians cheer whenever they can?
I mean hey, one is cheering the death of countless innocent children, but that is beside the point.
I should have differentiated...IDF is a military. Hamas is a terrorist organization. Our government sees them as a terrorist organization. Our own government believes Israel has a right to defend itself.
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Who cares if one is cheering for their "side"? People got out and lost their mind when Osama died. Why wouldn't the Israelis and Palestinians cheer whenever they can?
People are cheering because the IDF is finally defending their town. What was Hamas defending? Do people cheer Hamas to avoid getting shot by Hamas? What are they telling these people when they are firing rockets from their rooftops?
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I mean hey, one is cheering the death of countless innocent children, but that is beside the point.
Such hate in you...you really think that is what they are cheering? That is pretty brutal.
What do you propose? Should Hamas have a sectioned off area for rockets so they could invite the best fighter jets in the world to bomb them to shreds? Honestly, use common sense.
I propose that Hamas stop firing rockets.
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Should Palestinians write Israel a blank cheque to continue killing their children and other innocent civilians?
They should not, but that is effectively what they are doing when they fire rockets from civilian areas. Are you really going to claim that firing rockets at Isreal has prevented Palestinian civilian casualties?
I don't think this clarifies things as much as you probably think it does. Palestinians are an occupied people without the rights of free association, commerce, legal or political representation.
Palestinians that live in Israel have all the same rights and privileges as Jews that live in Israel. Palestinians that live in any of the territories are ruled by Palestinians. Which Palestinians have better free association, commerce, legal or political representation? Israel.
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They aren't in a position to be deciding much of anything.
Maybe don't vote in Hamas?
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The parallels between apartheid south Africa are both obvious and numerous.
Again, we can debate this and I think you are clearly wrong. And I have said it before and I will say it again, comparing Israel to South African apartheid is stupid. Israel has laws that should be viewed within the context of wartime.
I doubt you have posted much about the rest of the world and which countries are much more similar to South African apartheid.
I have no problem with people supporting their military. This is no different. Hamas has fired rockets for months and you MADE ZERO POSTS. Now that Israel fires back you complain. People there depend on their military to stay alive. Without the IDF Hamas would have killed everyone. Without Hamas maybe there would be a chance for peace.
Oh please . Cheering for the bombing of children, women and civilians is a disgrace and despicable and that CNN reporter was right in calling them scum.
Without Hamas there would be no chance at peace unless Israel stops ignoring international laws. How long has Hamas been in power? was there peace before? Arguing Israel with you is pointless so I am going to bow out of this thread.
Oh please . Cheering for the bombing of children, women and civilians is a disgrace and despicable and that CNN reporter was right in calling them scum.
If someone was cheering for the killing of kids that is terribly bad. I doubt even a small percentage of Israeli's want children killed. Hamas wants to kill every Jew, officially.
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Without Hamas there would be no chance at peace unless Israel stops ignoring international laws. How long has Hamas been in power? was there peace before? Arguing Israel with you is pointless so I am going to bow out of this thread.
You are truly out to lunch and those that honestly want peace in the region need less people like you supporting Hamas and actually arguing that they are trying to do good. Good riddance.
You realize there are equal videos of Palestinians cheering terrorists. Not only are you generalizing a population but you are making up their motives. The people on that ridge have been under a constant barrage of rockets for the last ten years. Some are obviously going to be excited about the army taking action.
People are willing to rationalize the Palestinian population elected Hamas but a few people cheering military action means "indoctrination" of the population?
Are you just stupid and can't read??? I distinctly said both sides cheer when they bomb the other.
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Disgusting both sides cheer when they bomb the other. The country's have really indoctrinated the population.
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Palestinians that live in Israel have all the same rights and privileges as Jews that live in Israel. Palestinians that live in any of the territories are ruled by Palestinians. Which Palestinians have better free association, commerce, legal or political representation? Israel.
Maybe don't vote in Hamas?
Again, we can debate this and I think you are clearly wrong. And I have said it before and I will say it again, comparing Israel to South African apartheid is stupid. Israel has laws that should be viewed within the context of wartime.
I doubt you have posted much about the rest of the world and which countries are much more similar to South African apartheid.
You mean the same way Southern Ukraime had a "choice" in being annexed.
Oh please . Cheering for the bombing of children, women and civilians is a disgrace and despicable and that CNN reporter was right in calling them scum.
Without Hamas there would be no chance at peace unless Israel stops ignoring international laws. How long has Hamas been in power? was there peace before? Arguing Israel with you is pointless so I am going to bow out of this thread.
You miss the fact that they were not aiming for the kids. The kids were just playing close to storage containers that had been known in the past as storage for Hama's weapons.
People need to get a grip and realize war isn't fun especially when terrorism is involved, Hell,in WWII we bombed the crap out of innocent German women and children nightly with incendiary bombs. Chances are if you were alive back then you would have cheered the results in hope for an end in your favor..that is war.
Groups like the Hamas have to go, Palestinians allow them to run terrorism in their own backyard if they don't want bombs landing there they should know what to do.
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People need to get a grip and realize war isn't fun especially when terrorism is involved, Hell,in WWII we bombed the crap out of innocent German women and children nightly with incendiary bombs. Chances are if you were alive back then you would have cheered the results in hope for an end in your favor..that is war.
Groups like the Hamas have to go, Palestinians allow them to run terrorism in their own backyard if they don't want bombs landing there they should know what to do.
I agee with this. I also feel the USA shouldn't pay for1/4 of Israel's military budget tho as well . or or 1.5 billion of Egypt's. Either give money to all 3 or None of them.
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Yes, if the rockets stopped everything would be ok for the Palestinians. You know, like how it is for the West Bank Palestinians who get a nice reward of seeing illegal settlements being built on their land for not firing rockets and not having hamas as their government.
I should have differentiated...IDF is a military. Hamas is a terrorist organization. Our government sees them as a terrorist organization. Our own government believes Israel has a right to defend itself.
People are cheering because the IDF is finally defending their town. What was Hamas defending? Do people cheer Hamas to avoid getting shot by Hamas? What are they telling these people when they are firing rockets from their rooftops?
Such hate in you...you really think that is what they are cheering? That is pretty brutal.
I agee with this. I also feel the USA should pay for1/4 of Israel's military budget tho as well . or or 1.5 billion of Egypt's. Either give money to all 3 or None of them.
Why should the USA pay anything to anyone? The USA supports Israel's right to exist and "sells" them arms, why on earth would they do the same for Israel's enemys?
This is the real world not some arcade game where you flop back and forth with each buck...you pick a side you feel is right and stick with them.
Why should the USA pay anything to anyone? The USA supports Israel's right to exist and "sells" them arms, why on earth would they do the same for Israel's enemys?
This is the real world not some arcade game where you flop back and forth with each buck...you pick a side you feel is right and stick with them.
Sorry that should read shouldn't . They currently do fund 1/4 of there budget. My bad.
The USA does support an Israels enemy tho. Egypt. 1.5 billion dollars
Yay the USA would never flip flop Manuel noriega *cough* supported saddam hussein using chemical weapons against Iran *cough* the numerous puppets funded government leaders in south America only then to help stage a coup against them *cough*
I got to get that cough checked out
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I mean hey, one is cheering the death of countless innocent children, but that is beside the point.
That's a ludicrous post. From what I've read if the Israelis weren't so vigilant in their evacuation training and bunker building - the death toll would be much higher. Maybe Hamas should be using assets to protect their populace instead of using them as disposable shields.
. Cheering for the bombing of children, women and civilians is a disgrace and despicable and that CNN reporter was right in calling them scum.
