[News] Flames/Glencross looking at Extension

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

He'll get a 5x5 guaranteed. Full NTC too I bet.

I doubt he gets all that and a bag of chips.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

I doubt he gets all that and a bag of chips.

He'd get that if he hit UFA. Dubinsky is a decent comparable.

[ComixZone]

I'm fulling expecting a 4-5 year deal worth 4-5M per season. Anything below 4.5M is a significant hometown discount.

Look at some other comparables (some clearly better players, some clearly worse players, but all in the same "range" as far as quality of player goes):

Callahan - 6 years, 5.8 per
Clowe - 5 years, 4.85 per
Bickell - 4 years, 4 per
Umberger - 5 years, 4.6 per
Marchand - 4 years, 4.5 per
Steen - 3 years, 5.8 per
Hemsky - 3 years, 4 per
Purcell - 3 years, 4.5 per
Pouliot - 5 years, 4 per
Pominville - 5 years, 5.6 per
Moulson - 5 years, 5 per
Gionta - 3 years, 4.25 per
Horton - 6 years, 5.3 per
Michalek - 3 years, 4 per
Clarkson - 7 years, 5.25 per
Lupul - 5 years, 5.25 per
Dubinsky - 6 years, 5.85 per

[Read Only]

Originally Posted by saXon

Hudler is the best fit of all those players listed. He's been nothing but pure value since he's been brought in.

Hudler takes as many plays/shifts off as Glencross but is useless if not used in the top 6.

At least Glencross can move into a 3rd line role if his offense diminishes and/or he gets passed by other wingers. Hudler offers offense and nothing else. I would take Glencross over Hudler everyday of the week especially if Glencross stays on team friendly deals.

[Finger Cookin]

I'm guessing he gets upwards of $4M per year on an extension, probably upwards of $5M with a limited NTC or no NTC. Hopefully the extension is no more than two years.

Not looking forward to CP when it is announced.

[BigFlameDog]

Originally Posted by Poe969

Some people said that the room was messed up because of the leadership... I honestly see Glencross as a negative in the room. He's a perfect example of playing when you want to play and floating when you wanna float. As long as you make friends with the boss, you can do anything. I think he'll have a negative influence on the young guys coming up and would do my best to try and trade him on the current contract he's on. Time to move on

How would you know if he's a negative in the room??? Clearly he is not or he wouldn't have lasted through the purge.

I know everyone wants every player to be a give 'er 120%/full time buzzsaw but to say he is a floater is ridiculous...he can be frustrating but so can about 70% of the players in the league by that standard.

Like the first statement.....clearly he doesn't have a negative impact or he would't be there and he wouldn't have an "A".

Just say you don't like the guy and want him gone....it's ok to do that.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

He'd get that if he hit UFA. Dubinsky is a decent comparable.

Dubinsky is a center, and a much different situation in Columbus. I doubt Glenncross gets that type of deal, but I guess time will tell. Especially if he's very keen on staying in AB.

[Money Baer]

3 x 4.5 would be my guess.

I like that term and the cap-hit seems fair.

[Poe969]

Originally Posted by BigFlameDog

How would you know if he's a negative in the room??? Clearly he is not or he wouldn't have lasted through the purge.

I know everyone wants every player to be a give 'er 120%/full time buzzsaw but to say he is a floater is ridiculous...he can be frustrating but so can about 70% of the players in the league by that standard.

Like the first statement.....clearly he doesn't have a negative impact or he would't be there and he wouldn't have an "A".

Just say you don't like the guy and want him gone....it's ok to do that.

I openly want him gone and I don't think he deserves an A, I think he got it because he's one of the older players on the team that's been there long enough. I know he can't be a "buzz saw" all the time but he just floats and the kids on the team see that. None of us know how he is in the room but he's been called out by the media and fans for floating, the other players are a lot closer than us and probably see it even more than we do. I just don't think that's the kind of person you want as a role model for the younger players. I've had the same attitude towards Glencross for a while now and he hasn't done anything in 3 years to prove me wrong.

[The Fonz]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Flames suck with Monahan, better get rid of him

Comparing a 19 yo rookie C to a 31 yo injury prone LW.

dino7c for GM.

[Imported_Aussie]

With the comparable players listed above, the players I see close to Glencross would be Michalek, Clowe, Umberger. So then the deal is likely 4-5M range, min. 3 years.
I could see a 4 year, 18M deal, money loaded up front with a NMC on first 3 years, limited NTC on 4th year. More than I would want to tie up, but with a rising cap and the low $$ deal last time, I think it is where things will rest

[jesters91]

As long as Treliving keeps to his mantra of 3 year max deals I'm alright with the possibility of re-signing Glencross. The youth of the organization, outisde of a player or two, is a couple of years away from being everyday players in the NHL so a 3 year term wouldn't be a detriment to the rebuild.

As far as $'s are concerned it's widely known that the player wants to be here so if the deal involves a NTC or NMC then he better take a hometown discount (ie: 3 years at 11 million). Management holds the advantage in contract discussions so hopefully they don't throw it all away (term and $).

[NewFan]

I hope it' max 4.5M x3 years.
Glencross - Stajan - Hudler line should be our best line against other teams top lines.

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by Money Baer

3 x 4.5 would be my guess.

I like that term and the cap-hit seems fair.

ya, i like that deal also.

wonder if he'd be willing to sign at 3 x $5 million next offseason after being traded at the deadline though

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by thethumwood

Rather not resign, younger players are ready to come up and fill those spots especially for the 2015/16 season. If we can trade him at deadline that would be preferred. (If he waves hic NTC).

who?


What younger players are ready to step up and play the physical role.

People at CP are hoping that somehow Poirier and Ferland will be the the top-9 aggressive skilled forwards to take the Glencross role.

Remember how Alui was on the cusp of making the Flames..... because they did not have anyone at all in the system.


Glencross's skill and playing style are the hardest to replace of all the Flames veterans outside of Gio.

Glencross has had the hardest time playing his role as he somehow became only 1 of 2 Flames forwards that played with grit. Bouma is the other. After that Byron stood out because he actually tried to make contact with force.


Look at the value the league puts on Glencross comparables: Callahan, Dubinsky, Clutterbuck, Clarkson,

Clutterbuck was traded for a 20 year old #5 overall draft pick .


Glencross (and Wideman) basically missing last year with injuries was a major contributing factor tho the Flames being 26th in the league.

[nik-]

I feel like you didn't watch Glencross before his injury last season.

[Huntingwhale]

I'd be fine with retaining Glencross or trading him for the right price. But ideally, I'd like to see him stay healthy next season during his contract season, put up big numbers, then garner numerous assets for next years deep draft. I think that will benefit the Flames more so then signing him long term.

[EVERLAST]

This news just wrecked my day.

Mr pouty mcpouterson.

Ill play skate shoot when I wanna.

Pretending to be a leader when its all about me.

Burke better put the kybosh on this NOW!!!!

Hell....id rather have had Lombo come back or trade glenpout for Matthew Lombardi RFN!!!!

Gawd ......lets extend Wideman and trade Gio for Ference.

Glad I got that off my chest. ...now I can go back to being a see you next Tuesday.

[GreenLantern]

I'd rather trade him.. he takes to many shifts off and acts like he is a super star on the ice.

Not the example I want set for the youngin's.

[Hackey]

Unless Flames can get a solid cap number I'd almost rather they wait on Glencross. Guy get injured too often. You go and give him a 5 year 5 million contract and he could become a huge boat anchor if he has another injury plagued mediocre season. Right now Glencross probably has decent value. Another poor season combined with a big contract he becomes a big liability to the team. I hope Flames management are careful with the deal if they do hand one out. When healthy he is solid but he's had one healthy year in the last 5. If we can't get a deal that makes sense I'd rather see them trade him while he still has some value.