5-year-old, grandparents disappear from Calgary home

[Schraderbrau]

My family and I have been following this closely just like so many other Calgarians and Canadians for that matter. I can’t tell you how sad and disgusted hearing that press conference today made me feel. My heart broke a little today and my thoughts go out to the family of that little boy.

[GreenLantern]

My condolences to the families involved and anyone who knew them.. such a horrible incident.

Hopefully justice is served, although there is no punishment harsh enough for this criminal.

[T@T]

CSI aside I sure hope this arrest isn't some kind of smokescreen in hopes of getting Garland to crack, he's a career criminal afterall and likely won't crack.

If the evidence is weak he'll walk.

[corporatejay]

I checked this thread multiple times a day, and as mentioned, hoped that they would find the child alive. This is so incredibly awful, I cannot imagine being those parents.

[SeeGeeWhy]

Originally Posted by IgiTang

Take the bad business dealings, the bankruptcy and share holders losing their shirts and the day of a Estate Sale where hundreds of people are transitting your house... probably isnt the best day for a sleep over.

And do you go out of your way to put your 5 year old child in an environment with boxes and crap all over the place? I sure the hell dont and I can tell you, if theres boxes and such, my 5 year old is trying to climb all over them and see whats going on... Not sitting in the corner, staying quiet while we assess the days events...

Its not the childs job to "cope" its our job as parents to make resonable decisions that best protect our childrens safety.

No one does... But if the Grandparents had any idea that they had people gunning for them in any sort of way for financial retribution, then perhaps they are somewhat at fault for allowing the Grandson over. Purely speculation on my part. But possible.

Look man, your personal quest for The Truth(tm), is very important to everyone else on the planet, trust me... but get this - people generally have the need to grieve in a time of loss. Now, and by "now" I mean within hours of the news being released, isn't the time to be demanding answers to irrelevant and insensitive questions from people who will never have the answers to said questions, and are feeling horrible on top of it all. Telling people to block you while you sit in the middle of the room and stomp your feet about your right to have questions makes you come off as an a-hole and a child. Your questions suck, and they're ill timed. Maybe you should block yourself from this thread and after you've had a time out you can re-think what you're defending.

RIP to the victims, my thoughts go out to the family, first responders and those investigating the case. Hoping for swift justice on this one.

[JonDuke]

CBC has updated their story and saying that Garland is indeed the one getting the 3 murder charges laid against him:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...ents-1.2706455

Has this been confirmed elsewhere? Or did I just miss it among the ridiculous posts on these past few pages?

[SeeGeeWhy]

Originally Posted by JonDuke

CBC has updated their story and saying that Garland is indeed the one getting the 3 murder charges laid against him:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...ents-1.2706455

Has this been confirmed elsewhere? Or did I just miss it among the ridiculous posts on these past few pages?

The Sun first reported that the family of the victims confirmed that it was Garland who was arrested. The police refused to name the person arrested.

[JonDuke]

Originally Posted by SeeGeeWhy

The Sun first reported that the family of the victims confirmed that it was Garland who was arrested. The police refused to name the person arrested.

Yeah, I understand that he was arrested.
The police said they were laying the charges this afternoon, but didn't say against Garland, or if it was against someone else entirely. That's why I ask.

[redforever]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Tragic is too small of a word to use in terms of the death of a innocent child in a violent crime. But there are no other words that quite fit.

Someone will tell you that life isn't fair, or that life is cruel and in this case it is.

there's no pit deep enough or no hellfire hot enough for those who bring harm to children.

We have to remember that these deaths reach far beyond the victims, to the parents who lost their child due to what is probably a split second decision by a angry, or greedy or disturbed individual. There is no comfort to be gained anywhere in this story by anyone connected to the victims, you can only hope that they find peace someday.

RIP little guy.

We also have to keep in mind that the survivors are burying 3 of their family, not just one.

[Dion]

No parent should ever have to bury their child. Such a horrible tragedy.

RIP

[prime333]

Why has this Garland man been singled out as a ‘person of interest’?

[Ducay]

Originally Posted by prime333

Why has this Garland man been singled out as a ‘person of interest’?

But why male models?




Read a news article or something. There is large amounts of evidence, hence he is officially a suspect and charged. Person of interest is what they designated him last week.

[jayswin]

nm unnecessary

[taco.vidal]

The green truck caught on Likness's neighbours surveillance was linked to Garland.

Originally Posted by prime333

Why has this Garland man been singled out as a ‘person of interest’?

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by JonDuke

I fail to see the big picture, often, so I'd like some advice.

Let's say someone organized a community search for the bodies. Random volunteers focusing on multiple rural roads in that area. Teams of 3-5 spread out on each side of multiple roads. Whatever...something like that. It would be planned out. Use Facebook and Twitter to spread the word, get maps and designate people/teams to roads, etc, etc.

With the police already having laid charges, they must be confident their case is somewhat court ready. And they're asking rural residents to check their own properties.

Would a community search like the one above do more harm than good? (ie: evidence)

I'm out of town until Thursday, but would really like to start working on something like this and plan it for Saturday IF there were no possible negative implications to the case. .

Good idea or should it be left as good intentions and not be done?

Almost everything around that area is private property. So unless you're talking about searching literally just the ditches on the sides of the roads, then that whole idea is a no go.

You can't just start searching farm/acreage properties with a group of citizens. The police can't do that, so there's no way you could.

[FlameZilla]

This is such a disturbing story. No family, regardless of their business dealings or bad decisions, deserves this tragedy. If this suspect is responsible I'm sure he'll go down for a very long time. Seems strange that they haven't found any bodies, so they must have found enough evidence which led to this arrest.

I fear that this story will probably lead many of my friends & family in Calgary to live more frightened & conservative lives. The sensational press coverage of this case could lead to paranoia & distrust of our neighbours. I hope we can all forge closer ties with the people in our community and get through this tragedy together.

RIP

[Minnie]

Originally Posted by flameswin

Almost everything around that area is private property. So unless you're talking about searching literally just the ditches on the sides of the roads, then that whole idea is a no go.

You can't just start searching farm/acreage properties with a group of citizens. The police can't do that, so there's no way you could.

Someone please tell these people that. *smh*

[IgiTang]

Listen guys, I'm as saddened as everyone else by this tragedy and had been hoping for the best.
I hope whoever did this to a poor unsuspecting, innocent human being is brought to justice.

It makes me sick that there was any possible suffering for little Nathan who was clearly loved by many.

My intent wasn't to point fingers, defend the accused or blame the victims here.

I was simply and still am confused about how this all came about and I certainly hope answers to many questions come to light.

I will concede that my questions were poorly timed. However, I was having this discussion with co-workers and many had the same questions. So.. I don't feel I was as out of line as many of you are making me out to be.

I apologize to those I offended, and certainly regret the timing.

As I sat back and read the personal attacks towards me, I thought how you must be feeling and it would be unfair for me to judge you guys as a narrow minded emotionally unstable mob who can't see past their own immediate feelings
at the moment.

So don't worry, this colossal a$$h°°° will shut up.

Allow you guys to have your thanks parade. But more importantly than you guys and your hurt feelings...

I truly do wish this turned out different for the Liknes family and Nathan.

[JonDuke]

Originally Posted by flameswin

Almost everything around that area is private property. So unless you're talking about searching literally just the ditches on the sides of the roads, then that whole idea is a no go.

You can't just start searching farm/acreage properties with a group of citizens. The police can't do that, so there's no way you could.

Yeah, I should have been more specific in my post.
I didn't mean walking on people's property and walking into everyone's barns and checking behind their sheds.
I meant literally walking along the roads, and yes, checking ditches, but also looking around, without trespassing on anyone's property.

But I get that, for evidence sake, it's not a good move so I'm not jumping into this at all. Leave it up to the professionals until/if they themselves put the call out for help

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by JonDuke

Yeah, I should have been more specific in my post.
I didn't mean walking on people's property and walking into everyone's barns and checking behind their sheds.
I meant literally walking along the roads, and yes, checking ditches, but also looking around, without trespassing on anyone's property.

But I get that, for evidence sake, it's not a good move so I'm not jumping into this at all. Leave it up to the professionals until/if they themselves put the call out for help

Yeah, the last thing that the police need is people searching for bodies without knowing what they're doing and destroying tracks or stomping some piece of key evidence into the ground.

I've been on body searches and they pretty much painstakingly train you right up to how to walk properly and how to use your eyes.