5-year-old, grandparents disappear from Calgary home

[psicodude]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Seriously people, take a breath and stop. I get that people are looking for answers but come on, use your head.

1) That guy who said the bodies have been found probably had a brain fart, have = haven't.

Then why hasn't he corrected it? Instead, he hasn't been back and appears to be hiding.

[Resolute 14]

Christ you guys. Get over it already.

[MillerTime GFG]

Originally Posted by Minnie

Weren't you just chastising someone else about derailing the thread in regards to the mental health angle?

You're right, just couldn't help but point it out 2 pages after he piled on for the same thing.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by MillerTime GFG

You're right, just couldn't help but point it out 2 pages after he piled on for the same thing.

No one was "piling on". My statement was pretty level.

[EldrickOnIce]

It's a movie quote, nothing more.
Not particularly pc, but what is now

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by psicodude

Then why hasn't he corrected it? Instead, he hasn't been back and appears to be hiding.

I don't know? If you were that curious I guess you could PM them and see what they have to say.

[redforever]

Originally Posted by fotze

Amazing how the mob mentality even translates to a message board. An insatiable desire in times like these to lash out.

Yup. Someone else alluded to the press as being vultures....when in all actuality, we are all vultures here, sitting and looking at our computers, hoping for more information, and refreshing for updates.

[OldDutch]

I think what really ticks me off is what others have said. That he didn't want to leave witnesses because he thought he was a "smart" criminal. The innocent boy died, so he could get away with it, for all of 1 week. What a piece of human garbage. I hope this haunts him and he never finds peace.

Arg, I am going to stop typing as I am going to say something I will regret. Thoughts and prayers to that poor young family. Know that Calgary has you.

[Stealth22]

Originally Posted by JonDuke

I fail to see the big picture, often, so I'd like some advice.

Let's say someone organized a community search for the bodies. Random volunteers focusing on multiple rural roads in that area. Teams of 3-5 spread out on each side of multiple roads. Whatever...something like that. It would be planned out. Use Facebook and Twitter to spread the word, get maps and designate people/teams to roads, etc, etc.

With the police already having laid charges, they must be confident their case is somewhat court ready. And they're asking rural residents to check their own properties.

Would a community search like the one above do more harm than good? (ie: evidence)

I'm out of town until Thursday, but would really like to start working on something like this and plan it for Saturday IF there were no possible negative implications to the case. .

Good idea or should it be left as good intentions and not be done?

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

One big issue with this is that you can not organize and send people on a search on private land without getting appropriate permission from the land owner. You should be fine on public lands but not private lands.

Bang on. The police are allowed to search anyone's property, either with the owner's consent, or with a search warrant. There are legal issues involved with searching private property. And then on top of that, the police are trained in basic forensic procedures, where as the average volunteer is not. The police don't want to run the risk of contaminating evidence, and having their case tossed out in court on a technicality because a DNA sample was contaminated, or a fingerprint rubbed out. There's a reason why the police work at the pace that they do, and don't just tear up the place looking for a single smoking gun.

Originally Posted by OldDutch

I think what really ticks me off is what others have said. That he didn't want to leave witnesses because he thought he was a "smart" criminal. The innocent boy died, so he could get away with it, for all of 1 week. What a piece of human garbage. I hope this haunts him and he never finds peace.

Arg, I am going to stop typing as I am going to say something I will regret. Thoughts and prayers to that poor young family. Know that Calgary has you.

+1...I knew that the outcome was going to be bad, but I was absolutely devastated to hear Chief Hanson announce the charges. Definitely been holding back some tears this afternoon.

Got to feel for all the cops involved too. It's got to be heartbreaking, going through all the evidence, working around the clock, hoping to find the little guy safe and sound. They go through a lot of cases, but I can't imagine having to work on a case involving a child, only to have it end badly. And the suspect doesn't have to give up anything, because he's only going to incriminate himself further if he doesn't keep his mouth shut.

What really pisses me off is, the he didn't have to do anything to the kid. Just leave him at a gas station or restaurant and drive off, for god's sake. The little guy will most likely know to get help, and people will recognize him right away. It leaves a witness, but, come on. IT'S A KID! He's going to be so scared and in such a state of shock that he wouldn't be able to give the police much anyway. It brings tears to my eyes imagining the grandparents pleading for Nathan to be spared.

Rest in peace, little guy.

[JeanLucPicard]

Just read the news that police are declaring all three dead. Reading that headline felt really bad.

[Ducay]

Forget mental illness (and my political incorrectness), but the guy has to have gone "full ######" to return the scene of the crime while on bail and being watched by the police.

[Raekwon]

Originally Posted by YourMother

As per a family member of theirs, the bodies have been found. Unfortunately they're all deceased. I'm not comfortable giving any more info than that, sorry.

I heard the more info and understand

[dieHARDflameZ]

Originally Posted by Ducay

Forget mental illness (and my political incorrectness), but the guy has to have gone "full ######" to return the scene of the crime while on bail and being watched by the police.

stop using that word please. honestly...

[EldrickOnIce]

Those who purposefully do grave harm to a child...
(I can not finish that sentence with words that are harsh enough)

[Mike Teavee]

Originally Posted by Ducay

Forget mental illness (and my political incorrectness), but the guy has to have gone "full ######" to return the scene of the crime while on bail and being watched by the police.

wait. what? is that true?

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Mike Teavee

wait. what? is that true?

I believe I also heard that he was picked up close to the acreage. I think it was a tweet from a reporter?

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by Mike Teavee

wait. what? is that true?

The suspect was arrested "in the vicinity' of the acreage in question

(This came directly from the news conference)

[Methanolic]

This is so beyond horrible. Today's news took any wind out of my sails and I have no connection with the departed so I cannot begin to have even the fainest idea how the family is coping with today's outcome. I truly hope they can find comfort somewhere somehow.

R.I.P.

[Mike Teavee]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

I believe I also heard that he was picked up close to the acreage. I think it was a tweet from a reporter?

oh...i thought the post meant he was hanging around outside the family's home.

[Northendzone]

Originally Posted by JMN

Hopefully they realize sooner rather than later that it wasn't their fault. It's great that their child had a close relationship with the grandparents. Very unfortunate and rare thing happened to their boy is all.

i agree, but as a parent, i'd think what if i had picked another day.......