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Hack&Lube · 07-09-2014, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 1stLand

Holy Smokes. No wonder they were having an estate sale. The Multi-Level Marketing angle should be looked into as well.

Any articles about their MLM dealings?

rayne008 · 07-09-2014, 11:16 AM

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Arya Stark · 07-09-2014, 11:46 AM

Additional unrelated charges have been filed against DG.

Possession of a stolen credit card and unlawful possession of ID

http://live.calgaryherald.com/Event/...s_grandparents

Ducay · 07-09-2014, 11:55 AM

I think they're just laying more charges to be able to remand him for a few more days.

Given the main leads they seem to be following at present is searching fields, things aren't looking so good....

Arya Stark · 07-09-2014, 11:57 AM

Any updates I missed on DG's elderly parents? Any sign of them yet?

Kjesse · 07-09-2014, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducay

I think they're just laying more charges to be able to remand him for a few more days.

Given the main leads they seem to be following at present is searching fields, things aren't looking so good....

Maybe they're on to the right guy, maybe not. This kind of behviour though is why so few people showed up to show the police what they bought at the sale and provide their fingerprints for all eternity.

Arya Stark · 07-09-2014, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Delgar

Maybe they're on to the right guy, maybe not. This kind of behviour though is why so few people showed up to show the police what they bought at the sale and provide their fingerprints for all eternity.

The police are only allowed to use those finger prints for this case, and this case only.

Edit: But I agree that it seems a little crazy how the police are treating this guy especially if he is completely innocent in regards to the missing people. They adjourned the case for 2 days for a simple charge that would likely have you free if it was any other person or any other case. If I was innocent and in his position I would feel my rights are being violated, but on the other hand he isn't completely innocent having fake ID's on him and stolen credit cards.

Tyler · 07-09-2014, 12:08 PM

This isn't a good sign:

BREAKING: Search expands to city landfill for missing Calgary family: http://bit.ly/1tnZblT

Derek Sutton · 07-09-2014, 12:15 PM

Now the police are asking all rural property owners around Calgary to search for anything odd and unusual? Have they been on a wild goose chase these last few days? It is very hard to be optimistic, this case seems to be very complex and there are 100's of questions. My biggest one is, well two actually are, what are they expecting to find in the sweeps of the fields and what information have they received to conduct said sweeps. Also, have they recovered any evidence (DNA, clothing, cell phone) from the scene or the vehicle(s) or from the farm.

Ugh, now they are searching the dump, on the hottest day of the year. I may be coming off as too critical of the Police, but really I do feel bad for those on the ground doing all this work.

MillerTime GFG · 07-09-2014, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyler

This isn't a good sign:

BREAKING: Search expands to city landfill for missing Calgary family: http://bit.ly/1tnZblT

They were searching there yesterday as well. Not good at all. This story is starting to make me sick.

MillerTime GFG · 07-09-2014, 12:37 PM

Ya I think I'm missing the word 'more' before the word 'sick'.

Slava · 07-09-2014, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigtime

^^^ Agreed, the tweets the reporters are constantly putting out serve no purpose. Many others on twitter have said likewise. There are meaningful updates, but then there are countless tweets that serve no purpose and get people worked up for no good reason (plus completely useless ones like tweets saying they are applying mosquito spray or sunscreen).

I think that you retweeted the perfect sentiment a couple days ago: live tweeting what appears to be a search for bodies is probably a poor use of technology.

MotoRacer · 07-09-2014, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Arya Stark

The police are only allowed to use those finger prints for this case, and this case only.

Edit: But I agree that it seems a little crazy how the police are treating this guy especially if he is completely innocent in regards to the missing people. They adjourned the case for 2 days for a simple charge that would likely have you free if it was any other person or any other case. If I was innocent and in his position I would feel my rights are being violated, but on the other hand he isn't completely innocent having fake ID's on him and stolen credit cards.

Could care less if they were using Middle East torture tactics. They obviously have lots against him, some of which has been reported.

Kjesse · 07-09-2014, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Arya Stark

The police are only allowed to use those finger prints for this case, and this case only.

How do you know that? First, there is no law I'm aware of that prevents law enforcement from entering personal information either publicly available or voluntarily given in to their database for permanent use. Second, I'd be curious to know if the CPS gave a signed undertaking or agreement to those who did submit their fingerprints at the open house, that they would not be entered into the database.

If you have actual knowledge, please do tell I'd like to become more informed. If you are just giving an opinion, think before you post suggesting that you actually know.

Arya Stark · 07-09-2014, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Delgar

How do you know that? First, there is no law I'm aware of that prevents law enforcement from entering personal information either publicly available or voluntarily given in to their database for permanent use. Second, I'd be curious to know if the CPS gave a signed undertaking or agreement to those who did submit their fingerprints at the open house, that they would not be entered into the database.

If you have actual knowledge, please do tell I'd like to become more informed. If you are just giving an opinion, think before you post suggesting that you actually know.

Because a while back I was asked to be finger printed in relation to a case as a witness and one of the first things I was told by the investigator was that they couldn't use my finger prints for any other case and it would not go into a database. I am assuming the same thing applies to these people.

nik- · 07-09-2014, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Arya Stark

Because a while back I was asked to be finger printed in relation to a case as a witness and one of the first things I was told by the investigator was that they couldn't use my finger prints for any other case and it would not go into a database. I am assuming the same thing applies to these people.

haha. I've got some bad news for you.

terminator · 07-09-2014, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by nik-

haha. I've got some bad news for you.

NSA has his finger prints?

Ozy_Flame · 07-09-2014, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by terminator

NSA has his finger prints?

No. CSIS and CSE does.

cKy · 07-09-2014, 01:38 PM

I believe Delgar is a lawyer, or is in that type of field. I think I would lean on believing his side of the law regarding fingerprints.

Unless I'm thinking of someone else, then dont listen to me.

BigNumbers · 07-09-2014, 01:52 PM

Arya Stark is correct. People giving prints voluntarily as witnesses, as he did and as the estate sale vistors are, will NOT be placed in the database. It's simply a one time matching TO the database to see if their prints are in there, etc.

However, if you work as a LEO, have been arrested and printed, etc - then your prints are in the database.

Make sense?