Once again Israel shows it doesn't screw around

[blankall]

Originally Posted by _Q_

So taking part in a demonstration = risking an ass kicking by the authorities? I think an arrest would have been what most liberal democracies would have done.

And this kind of crap happens all the time, but doesn't get reported by main stream media. The only reason this has created a #### storm is because the kid is an American citizen. That's probably the only reason why Israel is investigating this as well.

Define "demonstration".

Throwing molotov cocktails and bricks at police is a pretty quick way to get yourself into a physical altercation with police.

[undercoverbrother]

Garbage source

[cancer man]

The Palestinians have acquired over the years very sophisticated weapons.
Documentary was on yesterday and it doesn't look good for the Israelis if they start.
It's like a game of Risk except Israel has no allies.

[Arya Stark]

Originally Posted by cancer man

The Palestinians have acquired over the years very sophisticated weapons.
Documentary was on yesterday and it doesn't look good for the Israelis if they start.
It's like a game of Risk except Israel has no allies.

Except the strongest Army in the world

[Shnabdabber]

This whole conflict is a chicken egg scenario where neither side is ever going to blink. It's broken. Just gonna be a question of who will finally snuff out the other.

[Nage Waza]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

As a Jew and a strong supporter of Israel, I am deeply saddened and sickened by the attrocity committed by the extremist youths now held in custody. There can be no excuse for the shocking acts they committed. I know from friends in Israel that the entire country is outraged.

I just wish that the Arab communities, both in Canada and Palestine, would have expressed similar public outrage at the initial kidnapping and murder of the three Israeli teens.

Well said and I do know of some people on the other side that did express shame and disgust over what took place. However, that outrage as far as I know is certainly not the norm. I don't doubt for a second the negative and dangerous influence Hamas has in Gaza. The Palestinian textbooks also do not help, which I think could be the key to peace.

[_Q_]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

Well said and I do know of some people on the other side that did express shame and disgust over what took place. However, that outrage as far as I know is certainly not the norm. I don't doubt for a second the negative and dangerous influence Hamas has in Gaza. The Palestinian textbooks also do not help, which I think could be the key to peace.

Nice little bit of racism there hey?

I like how you don't even realize what you're saying is hateful and pathetic. Truly disgusting.

[Nage Waza]

Originally Posted by _Q_

Nice little bit of racism there hey?

I like how you don't even realize what you're saying is hateful and pathetic. Truly disgusting.

If that is what you consider proof of racism than I feel sorry for you. Seriously.

[undercoverbrother]

This thread may have outlived its usefulness

[CaptainCrunch]

This topic always gets ugly, its passion on both sides.

It jumped the shark with _Q_ throwing out an accusation of racism that I just don't see.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

This topic always gets ugly, its passion on both sides.

It jumped the shark with _Q_ throwing out an accusation of racism that I just don't see.

lol what? Nage Waza started with the anti-semite crap in his first post in this thread. As always.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

This topic always gets ugly, its passion on both sides.

It jumped the shark with _Q_ throwing out an accusation of racism that I just don't see.

Originally Posted by nik-

lol what? Nage Waza started with the anti-semite crap in his first post in this thread. As always.

And CaptainYooh Followed it right up.

[CaptainCrunch]

_Q_ highlighted a specific post I looked at it, I don't see hate mongering or racism in it.

But whatever.

[_Q_]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

_Q_ highlighted a specific post I looked at it, I don't see hate mongering or racism in it.

But whatever.

Change the word "Palestinians" to "Jews" and the statement Nage made suddenly becomes antisemitic (at least in his eyes).

I feel there's a double standard sometimes when it comes to the Israel-Palestine debate where any criticism of Israel is automatically labeled as antisemitic, but the Palestinian leadership or even Palestinian people in general are fare game. If any and all criticism is going to be defined as racist, then the street goes both ways.

[Bill Bumface]

Both sides have a large amount of dickheads.

One side has dickheads from a relatively advanced, democratic society, and they behave in the way dickheads from advanced democratic societies behave.

The other side has dickheads from a terrorist run society that has relied on guerilla tactics, and they behave the way dickheads from a terrorist run guerilla state behave.

Much to everyone's shock, the dickheads on each side think they aren't being dickheads.

There are a bunch of people on each side who aren't dickheads, but they don't have the guns, nor do they want them, so they aren't filling up the newspapers.

_Q_ and Nage Waza would be a lot better off if they could just admit this to each other, but we know it won't happen, and have many threads to prove it.

[Nage Waza]

Originally Posted by hulkrogan

_Q_ and Nage Waza would be a lot better off if they could just admit this to each other, but we know it won't happen, and have many threads to prove it.

Annoying that you include me in this - there hasn't been anything extreme from anything I have posted. Post otherwise if you can, as I have asked several posters to do so and have yet to have any reasonable responses. You won't be able to as I have not posted anything of the type nor do I have extremist thoughts.

Just because I have been accused does not make it true. I would be happy to clear the air if there was anything, but there is not.

[Nage Waza]

Originally Posted by nik-

lol what? Nage Waza started with the anti-semite crap in his first post in this thread. As always.

I certainly did and stand by my accusations. Ignoring or supporting terrorism while holding Israel to a different standard than other groups and criticizing them for that is simply racism.

Want to debate the leadership style of Hamas or the Israeli government? Perfectly fine to me.

Want to debate the merits of Israeli settlement construction? Perfectly reasonable.

Repeating nonsense and lies? That is a different issue altogether.

[Chill Cosby]

I don't know what's better.

Q being extreme on one end and being totally cool about it.

or

Nage being totally extreme on the other end, while pretending to be moderate and pleading for someone to point out his extremist views and then attacking anyone who does.

[Shnabdabber]

Tel Aviv has been getting hammered with rocket attacks today.

Trying to find a link...

For those who are closer to this situation than I, what does the advancement of Isis mean to Israel? Or Egypt for that matter? Reports are that Isis has been operating in the Gaza strip for a while now, and speculation/reports (again Im trying to find the links) are that Isis have overtaken Hamas terror groups and are operating outside of Hamas.

The spread of Isis across the middle east is beyond alarming, they are now threatening Spain.

[Nage Waza]

Originally Posted by Chill Cosby

Nage being totally extreme on the other end, while pretending to be moderate and pleading for someone to point out his extremist views and then attacking anyone who does.

Again, if you can't point out anything extreme that I have typed about the subject (EVER) than you are also a fool. You won't because you can't.

In fact, anything I have posted has been fairly moderate and pretty fair to both sides.