07-07-2014, 11:35 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Hold up now, thats Deryk Engelland type of money. Who do the Oilers think they are?!?!
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07-07-2014, 11:51 AM
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#22
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: the RR diner
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Ok, I get the Engelland posts because of the cap number, but people do realize this is an RFA signing and not a UFA signing, yeah? And that those are very different situations?
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07-07-2014, 12:07 PM
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#23
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Norm!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Imported_Aussie
He could also be positioning himself so that if the Oilers want to keep him, they have to overpay.
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Maybe, but its a double trap for The Oilers.
If he sucks, or the team sucks, there's no way he's signing in Edmonton.
Because it looks like another weak defenseman pool next year, if He totally rocks it out, over achieves, kicks a$$, becomes a defensive god. The Oilers can overpay as much as they want, he's going where he's going to have a better chance to win and make some money.
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07-07-2014, 12:23 PM
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#24
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Puzzling, to say the least
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07-07-2014, 12:37 PM
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#25
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Petry obviously wants out. He will be traded by the deadline if not before the season.
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07-07-2014, 12:37 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Not cheering for losses
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Petry is slightly less No Good than the rest of the team, tbh. Much less No Good than schultz.
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07-07-2014, 12:38 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Sherwood Park, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Resolute 14
Or that Edmonton doesn't see Petry in their long-term plans.
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I lol'd
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07-07-2014, 12:38 PM
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#28
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First Line Centre
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Not a bad signing. Gives both parties options at the end of the year. He was their only NHL dman last year.
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07-07-2014, 12:45 PM
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#29
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by puckedoff
Not a bad signing. Gives both parties options at the end of the year. He was their only NHL dman last year.
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Yeah, but their best (last year) and now 4th highest paid with this contract. And to suggest the Nikitin or Fayne as good or better is a big stretch right now. He is obviously not a happy camper.
It is Edmonton - so surely there will not be a NMC attached lol, so he's gone at deadline, if not before.
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07-07-2014, 12:48 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Bold move.
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07-07-2014, 12:55 PM
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#31
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Best draft in recent memory coming up? The Oilers decide to open their wallets and build up to a 10th overall pick.
They'll be at or around $66 million after J.Schultz signs and still no hope of making the playoffs.
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07-07-2014, 01:01 PM
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#32
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce
Yeah, but their best (last year) and now 4th highest paid with this contract. And to suggest the Nikitin or Fayne as good or better is a big stretch right now. He is obviously not a happy camper.
It is Edmonton - so surely there will not be a NMC attached lol, so he's gone at deadline, if not before.
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If Edmonton wasnt in the league they wouldnt need NMCs, so why would anyone already in Edmonton either need or want one?
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07-07-2014, 01:03 PM
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#33
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce
Yeah, but their best (last year) and now 4th highest paid with this contract. And to suggest the Nikitin or Fayne as good or better is a big stretch right now. He is obviously not a happy camper.
It is Edmonton - so surely there will not be a NMC attached lol, so he's gone at deadline, if not before.
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Nope, but mostly because you can't attach a NTC/NMC to a contract before the season that the player would otherwise qualify for group 3 unrestricted free agency. That's why you occasionally see guys traded before their NTC/NMCs kick in.
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07-07-2014, 01:04 PM
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#34
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteMoss
They'll be at or around $66 million after J.Schultz signs and still no hope of making the playoffs.
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And still without any sort of even reasonable second line C (unless Draisatl is the guy).
Almost 20M on third lines (11.5M on the 3rd line, 8M on third defensive pairing), and locked up for some time.
There is no real way to improve that team, imo. They are stuck with what they have.
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07-07-2014, 01:31 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
If Edmonton wasnt in the league they wouldnt need NMCs, so why would anyone already in Edmonton either need or want one?
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Think of it this way: If you're lucky enough to be traded away, you need the NMC so that you can't be traded back.
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07-07-2014, 02:21 PM
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Norm!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce
And still without any sort of even reasonable second line C (unless Draisatl is the guy).
Almost 20M on third lines (11.5M on the 3rd line, 8M on third defensive pairing), and locked up for some time.
There is no real way to improve that team, imo. They are stuck with what they have.
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Very similar to last year when Edmonton was up against the cap. They expected that last years team was going to be a playoff bound team.
They thought wrong.
This years team is looking like such a miss match of throw away players (Poulliot, Purcell. Lower level guys being pushed into higher spots NN and Faye, and the rest of the mismatched stuff.
I can see the Oilers being slightly better this year, but not all that much better this year.
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07-07-2014, 09:59 PM
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#37
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wingmaker
Ok, I get the Engelland posts because of the cap number, but people do realize this is an RFA signing and not a UFA signing, yeah? And that those are very different situations?
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In this situation not really. Both are pretty insignificant players.
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07-07-2014, 10:04 PM
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#38
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
Bold move.
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07-07-2014, 10:10 PM
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#39
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: the RR diner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hackey
In this situation not really. Both are pretty insignificant players.
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Which has nothing to do with the difference between negotiating an rfa contract and a ufa contract.
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07-07-2014, 10:27 PM
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CP's Resident DJ
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: In the Gin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
If Edmonton wasnt in the league they wouldnt need NMCs, so why would anyone already in Edmonton either need or want one?
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Actually there is a new clause developing up there. The NSC, otherwise known as the "No Stay Clause". Variants include the PTC ("Please Trade Clause") and BMM ("Bold Move Me", usually followed by ASAP)
Early indications are that the "WTFwasIthinking" clause isn't catching on is because for Oilers players, thinking isn't their strength.
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