[Signing] Flames re-sign Paul Byron (1 yr)

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

I think it isn't out of the realm of possibility that Byron could fill most if not all of the offense lost by Cammalleri this past season if he gets more of an opportunity, Byron played 5 min a game less than Cammy and 16 fewer games. Byron did have 21 points this year, to Cammy's 45.

Simply awarding more ice-time does not necessarily correlate with increased rates of production. With enhanced minutes, Byron MIGHT not have that same level of energy in all of his shifts for instance, and he will also be facing tougher competition when he is on the ice. How he performs will be interesting to monitor. On the other hand, he will also probably be playing with better players in those increased minutes, so perhaps it balances out. Perhaps not.

I am looking forward to seeing how he does though!

[dying4acup]

Byron has potential to be a special teams/overtime/shoot out beast. We have seen already what his skills can bring in all of these areas. I could see him centering the 4th line (primarily), with spot duty on all other lines. I could see him being on the 2nd powerplay. I could see him as a top PK. He's in my top 3-4 shoot out players, and he gets a a regular shift in OT. If anything he is limited at 5 on 5, because of his size, but could still add 7-10 points for the flames in the standings.

[Jason14h]

but could still add 7-10 points for the flames in the standings.

I nominate this as the greatest post in CP History!

Sidney Crosby v2.0!

[Where ru Chris O'Sullivan]

Originally Posted by dying4acup

Byron has potential to be a special teams/overtime/shoot out beast. We have seen already what his skills can bring in all of these areas. I could see him centering the 4th line (primarily), with spot duty on all other lines. I could see him being on the 2nd powerplay. I could see him as a top PK. He's in my top 3-4 shoot out players, and he gets a a regular shift in OT. If anything he is limited at 5 on 5, because of his size, but could still add 7-10 points for the flames in the standings.

This is exactly how "Realists" on CP (referred to as "Trolls" by the dream weavers) are born?

[The Eliminator]

Capgeek confirms the 1 way rumor, 600K

[Drury18]

Originally Posted by The Eliminator

Capgeek confirms the 1 way rumor, 600K

If that is indeed correct that's incredible, almost unbelievable. They signed him for less then what his qualifying offer would have been (he made $643,500 and would have been due a 10% raise in the QO) just to stay at a one way contract. No wonder they wanted nothing to do with arbitration, Byron would easily be awarded triple that.

By comparison, Lance Bouma's QO would be at least $635K, Hanowski about $850K and Ortio about $605K. Granted those are all probably 2 way contracts but that's what the qualifying offer to them would have been at bare minimum.

[getbak]

$600,000 seems low. That's less than his NHL salary last year. It will be the most he's made in a single season because it's a one-way, but I was thinking he'd be in the $800,000-$1M range (and I wouldn't have given it a second thought).


Whoever negotiated this deal should be working the phones more, and whoever did Engelland's should not (if the same guy did both, he should do more deals like this one).

Now, I have no idea where Bouma and Colborne will come in. One will probably get $3.5M and the other will get league minimum, and I couldn't guess who would get which.

[Drury18]

I'd guess Treliving negotiated the Engelland deal and Burke negotiated the Byron one.

No proof, but gut feeling. The way Treliving was also salivating over Engelland I think he would have backed a Brinks truck up. Byron's has that feel of a seasoned GM who obviously talked a big game in order for him to accept something that almost seems unfair based on QO rules and comparable players.

Again, no proof but how I would guess it.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by getbak

$600,000 seems low. That's less than his NHL salary last year. It will be the most he's made in a single season because it's a one-way, but I was thinking he'd be in the $800,000-$1M range (and I wouldn't have given it a second thought).


Whoever negotiated this deal should be working the phones more, and whoever did Engelland's should not (if the same guy did both, he should do more deals like this one).

Now, I have no idea where Bouma and Colborne will come in. One will probably get $3.5M and the other will get league minimum, and I couldn't guess who would get which.

the differences between Bouma and Engelland are so vast comparing their salaries in any way is a mistake because they are not even a little comparable.

Engelland is an established NHLer, a UFA with upwards of 10 teams bidding for his his services, who received extra money for less years. He also went to a bottom feeder.

Byron is a tweener trying to prove he is an NHL player, he likely has very few opportunities to choose from so the lack of a bidding war and lack of leverage due to being a tweener gives his no negotiating power.

Bouma should come in around 800k-1 million and Colborne 1,500,000(ish)

[jtfrogger]

Originally Posted by Drury18

I'd guess Treliving negotiated the Engelland deal and Burke negotiated the Byron one.

No proof, but gut feeling.

That contract I like, that was so awesome that it had to be done by the guy I like. That contract I don't like, well that was clearly done by the guy I don't like. This is further proof that they should fire that guy I don't like.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by jtfrogger

That contract I like, that was so awesome that it had to be done by the guy I like. That contract I don't like, well that was clearly done by the guy I don't like. This is further proof that they should fire that guy I don't like.

How is that in any way what he said?

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Drury18

No wonder they wanted nothing to do with arbitration, Byron would easily be awarded triple that.

1.8M plus for a player with 11 goals, total, in the NHL? What an absurd statement.

Arbitration would not go that well for Byron. At best he's looking at a Zuccarello-just-over-a-million-dollar salary. Except Zuccarello was awarded that in part because of his 0.50 points per game heading into the case which Byron trails behind.

The comparable players to Byron with 10 goals, 30 points and 80 games (spread out over 4 seasons) in the NHL are going to be a lot closer to averaging 600K than 1.8M, that's for sure. But it's all moot, they didn't even qualify him. He was a UFA and I'm sure his agent called around. He got a significant raise with the Flames simply by having a one-way contract and he probably should be thankful for getting that.

[Street Pharmacist]

Was it term rather than money they were worried about with arbitration?

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Was it term rather than money they were worried about with arbitration?

for player elected arbitration, the team gets to choose if it is a 1 year or 2 year deal.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

for player elected arbitration, the team gets to choose if it is a 1 year or 2 year deal.

Then I'm confused.

[Roof-Daddy]

I figured Byron would make around $800-900k, so this is a little less.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Then I'm confused.

Plan B?

Leaving a spot open for a UFA that they missed out on would have to be my guess. When the frenzy died they reconsidered him as an option.

Otherwise if he was "Plan A" they would have been able to sign him to a 1 year-deal in that 710-900K range 100% for sure without risk of losing him as a UFA if they really wanted him.

[Inferno099]

http://www.capgeek.com/player/1166

[StrykerSteve]

He took a pay "decrease" for a one way deal, makes perfect sense because he'll make more money in the end because of it.

[albertGQ]

Man, I'd love to make $600k. Lucky kid