[Signing] Flames re-sign Paul Byron (1 yr)

[bubbsy]

sorry if this has already been clarified, but i thought there was mention that there would be no bearing of whether this was a 1 way or 2 way deal. Is that because byron would have to pass thru waivers regardless of which type of contract he was on?

[puckedoff]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

sorry if this has already been clarified, but i thought there was mention that there would be no bearing of whether this was a 1 way or 2 way deal. Is that because byron would have to pass thru waivers regardless of which type of contract he was on?

1 way deal just means he makes his NHL rate even if he gets sent to the minors. Its not related to waiver eligibility.

Pretty sure he would have to pass through waivers regardless.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

sorry if this has already been clarified, but i thought there was mention that there would be no bearing of whether this was a 1 way or 2 way deal. Is that because byron would have to pass thru waivers regardless of which type of contract he was on?

Yes. The only difference between a one-way and a two-way is that two-way deals pay a lower salary when the player is in the AHL. On a one-way, the player gets his NHL salary even if he's in the AHL.

Byron will need to clear waivers to play in the AHL (just as he did last season when he was on a two-way deal).

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

sorry if this has already been clarified, but i thought there was mention that there would be no bearing of whether this was a 1 way or 2 way deal. Is that because byron would have to pass thru waivers regardless of which type of contract he was on?

That was said.

A two way contract means you get paid at different rates in the NHL and AHL (i.e. Gaudreau gets $925,000 in the NHL and $70,000 in the AHL disregarding bonuses). With a one-way deal you get paid your NHL salary no matter where you play.

EDIT: or what he said ^^^^

[bubbsy]

realized the salary implications was curious about the waiver issues. Thanks for the prompt replies.

[squirtle]

I'm glad management signed some real truculence into our lineup

[Igster]

Originally Posted by squirtle

I'm glad management signed some real truculence into our lineup

Byron plays much bigger than he is. Nothing wrong with adding him into the lineup.

[FlamesAddiction]

I like Byron. He is a like having a secret weapon on the 4th line or when short handed.

I would love to see him get some top 6 ice-time just to see how he does.

[Flash Walken]

I like Paul Byron.

[CsInMyBlood]

Very good news, glad to see him signed again. Couldn't believe some of the responses when it came out that the Flames hadn't qualified him and it looked like he was going to be moving on. People basically saying, "Meh, who cares"

Made me think our management was clueless and that many here obviously don't actually watch the Flames and Byron play because if you did, you would know what he brought every night.

I think we haven't even begun to see what Paul really is. A full season this year and I know many will be forced to change their "meh" opinion on him. Certainly one of my favorite players to watch last season, his tenacious puck pursuit, work ethic, speed, solid two way play and hockey IQ made his small size irrelevant. The guy is hard to play against.

I was seriously disappointed when it seemed like Byron was no longer in the Flames plan. Paul deserved to be signed and I'm glad he will be here to prove himself again.

Good job Treliving, you obviously did your homework.

[heep223]

I like Paul Byron.


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[Plett25]

I'm very happy that Byron has been resigned. With all the talk of Johnny Hockey, Bennett and our other prospects having to work their way into the roster, signing Byron was a "put your money where your mouth is" moment.

Besides what Byron brings as a player, his signing sends a message to the kids that if you work hard, buy into the system, and play bigger than your size you'll get your shot on the big team. And that message isn't just important for our Gaudreau to Baertschi sized players... imagine if Hunter Smith and Kanzig buy in and refuse to be outworked and outhit by a little smurf like Byron?

The Flames will be terrifying.

[St. Pats]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

Or, he's the small LW forward in the lineup while Gaudreau spends a year learning to be a pro in the AHL

I think that's exactly what he is. Filler for a year. Still gives him the chance to impress the Flames or other NHL clubs that he is a fit for them. On a team that had size throughout the lineup he could fit in easily. With a team that is more puffster than truculent it's a little tougher to put him into the lineup.

But he has a shot and he has earned it so it's up to him to make the most of the opportunity.

[Imported_Aussie]

I like this for a few reasons:
Byron came on well late in the year - this gives him more time to see if that was a trend or aberration. Worst case, he ends up in Glens Falls.
It also shows players that hard work will earn you a contract, promotes positive play, despite what is likely to be a long losing season
And finally it makes just that little more competition for young guys to force their way onto the team. That never hurts

[CaptainCrunch]

I like Byron, I had no problem with his effort level last year. But I've said it before, you can't build up from a 27th place hockey team without change, Yes we've had some change in the top 6 with Camms going and Raymond coming in. But at some point you need to start fitting pieces of your rebuild in, and Byron is probably not going to be part of the long term vision of the Flames.

The key prospects that are ready to graduate, the Reinharts and others are those bottom 6 guys that need to take Byron's spot.

You can't get sentimental for a player on a bottom tier team because you can't keep bringing everyone back.

[CsInMyBlood]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I like Byron, I had no problem with his effort level last year. But I've said it before, you can't build up from a 27th place hockey team without change, Yes we've had some change in the top 6 with Camms going and Raymond coming in. But at some point you need to start fitting pieces of your rebuild in, and Byron is probably not going to be part of the long term vision of the Flames.

The key prospects that are ready to graduate, the Reinharts and others are those bottom 6 guys that need to take Byron's spot.

You can't get sentimental for a player on a bottom tier team because you can't keep bringing everyone back.

It isn't about getting sentimental, it is about a guy who deserves to be on the team due to his on ice performance. Byron was one of the best players on the Flames many nights last year.

47 GP, 7 G, 14 A, 21 Points in limited ice time. His +6 was second best +/- on the Flames. Just turned 25 years old. 29 takeaways to 13 giveaways. Speed to burn, much grit, great on the PK.

If somebody is able to push Byron off the team then great news for us. I just believe we have no idea what his ceiling is at this point. I think he has a lot more to show than he did last season and last season was a pretty solid starting point.

The guy has only played a total of 81 games in his NHL career thus far. Nobody can say with any certainty what kind of NHLer he will develop into.

[Bandwagon In Flames]

Perhaps they expect to send Gaudreau to the AHL to start next season. They believe Byron is a valuable asset and if he keeps up his play, may be worth a 3rd+ at or before the trade deadline.

Once he's traded, Johnny will be called up and finish the year in Calgary.

One potential scenario anyways.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I like Byron, I had no problem with his effort level last year. But I've said it before, you can't build up from a 27th place hockey team without change, Yes we've had some change in the top 6 with Camms going and Raymond coming in. But at some point you need to start fitting pieces of your rebuild in, and Byron is probably not going to be part of the long term vision of the Flames.

The key prospects that are ready to graduate, the Reinharts and others are those bottom 6 guys that need to take Byron's spot.

You can't get sentimental for a player on a bottom tier team because you can't keep bringing everyone back.

Well it's Stempniak, Cammalleri, Galiardi and Westgarth out.
Raymond and Bollig in.

So we have opened two spots so far. Thing is you look at a healthy roster and it looks slightly clogged. But then you realize that injuries are inevitable and that probably two spots will be open for rookies all year because of injury. Look his many forwards we used last year. Plus Treliving can trade if a prospect significantly outplays someone. We may also be looking to deal Glencross by the deadline which could open another spot.

There should be lots of opportunities for youngsters. Especially due to injury.

[Enoch Root]

I think Byron (at this point in his career) is the perfect 13th forward - you can slot him into any position on any line and he can bring what is required. And he plays every shift at full speed. Love that he is back.

It would be interesting to see if he can create trade value at the deadline. I think he would be a great addition for a playoff run.

[DazzlinDino]

If not posted yet does anyone have the video on that Byron one handed breakaway at full speed.