07-01-2014, 07:06 PM
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#21
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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How is it there is political debates on trivial things like the name of a football team all while people are still allowed to travel the globe and kill endangered animals for sport? Man has done a lot of bad things to the earth but game hunting endangered animals is up there for the worst.
That picture of her beaming after murdering that beautiful lion is disgusting.
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07-01-2014, 07:10 PM
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#22
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by Cameron Swift
While I find everything she's doing here to be utterly grotesque, I have to wonder if there would be as much uproar and attention if she was a male.
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I think the uproar would be the same but the matter of fact is that it's common typically amongst men to take part in this over women so you normally won't see an article like this for any typical male hunter. The fact that she's young and female makes for a new slant on a horrific human pastime.
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07-01-2014, 07:26 PM
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#23
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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Lions arent endangered. (Unless thats a west Afrcan Lion)
Lions are considered a vulnerable spieces which means they are at risk of becoming endangered.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IUCN_Red_List
I dont believe that hunting is the cause of their population decline. Mainly loss of habitat and loss of habitat for their prey spieces. If that is the case then these game reserves enhance the survivability of the species because they set aside territory for lions to exist. Also killing adult lions should increase rates of cub survival as food competition should be reduced. So properly managed a lion hunt is good for the survival of a spieces.
That said I dont lie trophy hunting but if one were to utilize the meat from the animal I wouldnt have an issue
Last edited by GGG; 07-01-2014 at 07:32 PM.
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07-01-2014, 07:47 PM
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#24
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Yeah, I loathe trophy hunting, I think it's disgusting but if you kill an animal, use the meat and keep the carcass as a trophy, I can live with that, even though it's not my cup tea.
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07-01-2014, 07:51 PM
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#25
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Tampa, Florida
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TBQH I would love to hunt some of her wild beaver...
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07-01-2014, 08:32 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PIMking
TBQH I would love to hunt some of her wild beaver...
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Re: beaver
Is that considered big game or would that be called small game?
Let the hunter be hunted. Godspeed
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07-01-2014, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by corporatejay
Yeah, I loathe trophy hunting, I think it's disgusting but if you kill an animal, use the meat and keep the carcass as a trophy, I can live with that, even though it's not my cup tea.
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My understanding is that most of the time the meat is used by the locals if the hunter can't/ doesn't want the meat. No one is running around, shooting a lion, chopping its head off and then letting the carcass rot.
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07-01-2014, 11:22 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: In the prairies, surrounded by sheep
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Whenever I hunt wild beaver, I always eat all the meat
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07-01-2014, 11:46 PM
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#29
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GOAT!
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Originally Posted by Thor
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That friggin lion is (was) gorgeous. Unbelievable.
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07-02-2014, 02:33 AM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: KenKingsinton
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This was a super sad thread to read and probably a really poor idea for me to come on here before bed. It makes me really upset.
Part of me feels like a hypocrite sometimes because my desire to eat meat and its' corresponding market influence that causes animals to die. But at least I sure as hell am not shooting them for sport. For the pride of feeling like I'm better than something. For the sheer fact that I can assert technological dominance. Disgusting. Just really upsetting.
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07-02-2014, 03:22 AM
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Has lived the dream!
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Where I lay my head is home...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by llwhiteoutll
My understanding is that most of the time the meat is used by the locals if the hunter can't/ doesn't want the meat. No one is running around, shooting a lion, chopping its head off and then letting the carcass rot.
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While your probably right that only the most irresponsible let the animal go to waste, I would imagine it happens more often than we would want to think about. Plenty of videos and cases show exactly that.
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07-02-2014, 05:49 AM
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I have never understood posing next to your kill. You're a hunter and enjoy eating and using all parts of the animal? Fine, but I don't like seeing pictures of people hoisting their heads up as blood comes out of the mouth. I get that that is reality, and I'm no vegetarian, but I don't need to see that stuff. Whether Facebook should be blocking it is another issue, I just don't think people should be posting it themselves.
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07-02-2014, 07:25 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Edmonton
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Originally Posted by Daradon
While your probably right that only the most irresponsible let the animal go to waste, I would imagine it happens more often than we would want to think about. Plenty of videos and cases show exactly that.
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I think you are combining poaching with hunting on a game reserve.
Poaching is illegal and makes the news when it is done for things like ivory. In those cases the poachers will leave the animal because they are trying to get away quickly with the ivory.
Hunting on a game reserve is private land. The owner lets you come on his land and gives you a price sheet of all the animals you can shoot and how much you will pay. The owner also provides a guide to go with you to make sure that you follow all of the rules. I am pretty sure that the guide will arrange for the animal butchered if the hunter doesn't want the meat.
If they leave the meat in the bush it is because the reserve wants it that way, not because they are lazy.
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07-02-2014, 08:10 AM
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is it just me or does that picture look ridiclously staged. for someone that had supposedly been hunting, she looks pretty fresh.
seems like a complete waste to kill an animal just because.......
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07-02-2014, 08:20 AM
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I believe in the Jays.
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I think trophy hunting is abhorrent... you're killing something just for the sake of killing it. I have no problem with hunting, but if you hunt down an animal you better damn well eat it. My father in-law hunts (elk and moose mostly) and I have no problem with it. He keeps all the meat, uses the hide, and turns the bone/antlers into canine chews.
That being said so long as she isn't violating Facebook's terms of use she should keep her page.
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07-02-2014, 09:19 AM
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#36
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Northendzone
is it just me or does that picture look ridiclously staged. for someone that had supposedly been hunting, she looks pretty fresh.
seems like a complete waste to kill an animal just because.......
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hehehe, hunting.
I reckon she was sitting in a hide waiting for it to come along.
Having seen a lion live in Africa, I am disgusted at this POS girl.
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07-02-2014, 09:20 AM
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#37
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by llwhiteoutll
My understanding is that most of the time the meat is used by the locals if the hunter can't/ doesn't want the meat. No one is running around, shooting a lion, chopping its head off and then letting the carcass rot.
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Can you provide me something solid that shows that locals are eating lion?
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07-02-2014, 09:24 AM
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#38
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Calgary
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I think I'd be okay with big game hunting if the hunter killed the animal with their bare hands... or possibly a stick they sharpened in the wild. At least then it would be a fair challenge and if you win you can say you're a bad ass.
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07-02-2014, 09:45 AM
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#39
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Yeah there's a fine line between "hunting" and "slaughtering". If she tracked the animal, took it out without a firepowered weapon and utilized the majority of the animal for other purposes, then there's no issue for me really. But just sitting around waiting for the animal to come around and then taking an open shot? Any schmuck with the right amount of cash can do that.
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07-02-2014, 10:43 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Edmonton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
Yeah there's a fine line between "hunting" and "slaughtering". If she tracked the animal, took it out without a firepowered weapon and utilized the majority of the animal for other purposes, then there's no issue for me really. But just sitting around waiting for the animal to come around and then taking an open shot? Any schmuck with the right amount of cash can do that.
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I agree with you, however this is still legal and allowed in Alberta. Hunters can bait both bears and wolves and then shoot them from their tree houses.
How can we complain about it being allowed in some African countries when we let people do it here. The only trophy hunting that I have respect for is sheep hunting. Those guys are hardcore and spend weeks in the mountains tracking an animal.
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