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Old 06-30-2014, 12:57 PM   #401
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We would have just bought out Ribero to save ARZ the cap money, or Treliving still thought he could be redeemed.

Perlini ended up going 12th overall to Arizona but my guess would be that we would have then used 12 to try and move up to get Ritchie.
Either or it wouldn't really have mattered as it would have been a win either way just to get the 12th pick for giving up nothing in return.
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Old 06-30-2014, 12:58 PM   #402
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Personally, I think outside of Flames fans, every other fan will say they would rather have Johansen over Gaudreau.

Gaudreau is good but he still has a lot of question marks sorrounding him and I would rather have Johansen who has already played a few seasons in the NHL and is coming of a 30 goal season and 63 points. He is 6'3 220 Pounds.

Keep in mind we might center depth but you can never have enough of it. Sam Bennett can easily be moved to the wing down the road.

As for the 1st round pick, you need to give up value to get value and I think the Flames will be picking in the 10-15 range in 2016. Maybe I am just a huge fan of Johansen because he is big, proven and young.
If we were picking in the 10-15 range then Id definitely make the deal but that is far from a guarantee. Either way no way are the blue Jackets trading their top player for a pick two years from now. It makes no sense. Trade would never happen.
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Old 06-30-2014, 01:02 PM   #403
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I guess we'll agree to disagree. I too like Johanssen's game, and he'd no doubt be the 1st line center on our team, 6'3, 220 lbs and a right handed shot would definitely meet the Flames' needs. But like I said, not at the expense of Johnny G.

If you wanted me to make a counter proposal, I'd give the Jackets Backlund + Sven + a 2015 2nd (and maybe another plus). Not sure the Jackets would do it, but they already have having enough trouble signing Johanssen a decent contract. I'd easily give him a 6 x 6 on the Flames.
There isn't one GM in the league who would take Gaudreau over Johansen. Gaudreau is an amazing prospect for us but man do we fall in love with players on this board.

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Old 06-30-2014, 01:14 PM   #404
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today's the deadline to make qualifying offers, correct?

Any word on did/didn't get QO's today for the flames list of rfa's?
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Old 06-30-2014, 01:16 PM   #405
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today's the deadline to make qualifying offers, correct?

Any word on did/didn't get QO's today for the flames list of rfa's?

Since sureloss has posted nothing about it I'm going to say no. I'm sure it's coming.
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Old 06-30-2014, 01:17 PM   #406
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No still waiting on the list of qualified RFA's. Flames seem to be one the of the last teams to release a list.
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Old 06-30-2014, 01:18 PM   #407
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This is absurd. There are ppl who won't trade gaudreau straight up for johansen? Jeez! Or include him in proposals?

We laught at oilers but this is beyond ridicolous.
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Old 06-30-2014, 01:19 PM   #409
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@AAVickers: Believe the deadline for NHL teams to submit qualifying offers to RFA's is 5 p.m. ET, a little over three hours away.
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Old 06-30-2014, 01:21 PM   #410
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This is absurd. There are ppl who won't trade gaudreau straight up for johansen? Jeez! Or include him in proposals?

We laught at oilers but this is beyond ridicolous.
It's pretty much moot because there is no way Columbus would do any of those trades.
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Old 06-30-2014, 01:23 PM   #411
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I would rather not hear about deals that didn't work out. Didn't we used to make fun of the Oilers for always leaking what they always "almost" pull off?
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Old 06-30-2014, 01:24 PM   #412
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I would rather not hear about deals that didn't work out. Didn't we used to make fun of the Oilers for always leaking what they always "almost" pull off?
Yes. From their management.
Do you have a source where Treviling bragged about bold moves almost completed?
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i agree. big difference when it is the GM/management talking up all the moves that didn't get done, rather than the media sharing rumours.
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Old 06-30-2014, 01:30 PM   #414
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This is absurd. There are ppl who won't trade gaudreau straight up for johansen? Jeez! Or include him in proposals?

We laught at oilers but this is beyond ridicolous.
I wouldnt trade johnny hockey for Sidney Crosby, Geno Malkin, or OV combined!

I would ride that golden stick of Johnny's until he died. I would then make a hand puppet out of him, tape a stick to his hand and still watch him score goals! He's that good! #flaming #gayprideweek #GFG !!!
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Yes. From their management.
Do you have a source where Treviling bragged about bold moves almost completed?
http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpos...&postcount=251
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Old 06-30-2014, 01:32 PM   #416
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I don't think that's quite it.
Did he divulge details?
Should he have lied when ask the question?
Not the thing you are talking about, imo
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Old 06-30-2014, 01:32 PM   #417
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wow what a brutal attempt at a response.
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Old 06-30-2014, 01:34 PM   #418
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interesting....

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wow what a brutal attempt at a response.

Is this supposed to be irony?
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Old 06-30-2014, 01:35 PM   #420
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I don't think that's quite it.
Did he divulge details?
Should he have lied when ask the question?
Not the thing you are talking about, imo
Either way, I don' think it paints a great picture no matter who is leaking the information.

It also doesn't say that he was answering questions when he said it.

Not really important anyway. I just don't think the leaks are good, and there seem to be a lot (could as easily be from the other teams though).
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