06-28-2014, 10:27 AM
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#1861
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
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Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
MTL D Josh Gorges' name is out there in trade talk. TOR made a pitch for Gorges but no CDN team is on list of 15 teams he can be dealt to.
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06-28-2014, 10:28 AM
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#1862
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trailer Fire
Shall we just draft midgets then? Drafting is about the future, not the past. Just because a few taller picks busted previously doesn't mean they all will.
Man, I wish I could take a break from CP. So many posters think they are the smartest person in the room.
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It's just not being a fan of drafting size for size sake. If Smith was a good offensive talent, then that's fine. However, when you look up video on him, the only ones that come up are him beating people up. That's basically what you're getting.
So getting a guy that pretty much caps out as a 3rd/4th line grinder is not a great use of a 2nd round pick.
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06-28-2014, 10:29 AM
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#1863
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
MTL D Josh Gorges' name is out there in trade talk. TOR made a pitch for Gorges but no CDN team is on list of 15 teams he can be dealt to.
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What are they doing shopping/thinking about trading Gorges...
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06-28-2014, 10:30 AM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Calgary
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What are the chances Haydon is available at 175? Dropped a lot...
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06-28-2014, 10:31 AM
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#1865
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kn
What are the chances Haydon is available at 175? Dropped a lot...
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None, Dallas just took him.
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06-28-2014, 10:31 AM
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#1866
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Calgary
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Just as I posted, he gets drafted....
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06-28-2014, 10:33 AM
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#1867
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Dallas takes Haydon with the pick we gave up for MacDermid
@#$@!
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06-28-2014, 10:34 AM
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#1868
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Caged Great
It's just not being a fan of drafting size for size sake. If Smith was a good offensive talent, then that's fine. However, when you look up video on him, the only ones that come up are him beating people up. That's basically what you're getting.
So getting a guy that pretty much caps out as a 3rd/4th line grinder is not a great use of a 2nd round pick.
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That's pretty low way to look at him. If you judge the other prospects around him as harshly you aren't coming up with much better alternatives.
Smith definitely has better than 3rd/4th line grinder potential and caps out much better than that. How likely it is that he gets to that ceiling could be debated but saying his top end is 3rd/4th line is just not true.
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06-28-2014, 10:36 AM
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#1869
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Dallas takes Haydon with the pick we gave up for MacDermid
@#$@!
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That one hurts.
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06-28-2014, 10:37 AM
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#1870
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Caged Great
It's just not being a fan of drafting size for size sake. If Smith was a good offensive talent, then that's fine. However, when you look up video on him, the only ones that come up are him beating people up. That's basically what you're getting.
So getting a guy that pretty much caps out as a 3rd/4th line grinder is not a great use of a 2nd round pick.
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How about this then?
http://www.oshawagenerals.com/articl...er-of-the-week
I think he's a project who brings more than just size and toughness. A player that we should watch closely this year. A lot of fans wanted someone who was tough to play against and still brought some skill to the table, and Smith seems to fit that mold.
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06-28-2014, 10:40 AM
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#1871
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First Line Centre
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Has RW Ondrej Kase been picked yet? Might be a nicely skilled addition in the late rounds.
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06-28-2014, 10:40 AM
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#1872
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tromboner
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: where the lattes are
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trailer Fire
Shall we just draft midgets then? Drafting is about the future, not the past. Just because a few taller picks busted previously doesn't mean they all will.
Man, I wish I could take a break from CP. So many posters think they are the smartest person in the room.
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6'2" = midget?
I'm not saying we stop drafting tall players. I'm saying that height should be given a reduced weighting.
Or perhaps, as this analysis argues, no weighting at all.
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06-28-2014, 10:41 AM
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#1873
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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He'll likely be an NHL player, it's just that you are more or less getting Brian Boyle. That's alright I guess. I'd just rather have taken a risk on getting someone that's more than a good depth guy in the 2nd round.
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06-28-2014, 10:43 AM
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#1875
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Nashville takes Aaron Irving
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06-28-2014, 10:44 AM
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#1876
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Caged Great
He'll likely be an NHL player, it's just that you are more or less getting Brian Boyle. That's alright I guess. I'd just rather have taken a risk on getting someone that's more than a good depth guy in the 2nd round.
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Or you are pretty much getting Milan Lucic.
Glad we took a chance on that than pick up a guy with Nathan Gerbe /Matt Gilroy upside.
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06-28-2014, 10:44 AM
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#1878
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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Is Kamenev available still. He might be an interesting pick.
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06-28-2014, 10:45 AM
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#1879
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Caged Great
Is Kamenev available still. He might be an interesting pick.
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no, I think NSH too him in the second.
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06-28-2014, 10:46 AM
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#1880
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Read Only
Or you are pretty much getting Milan Lucic.
Glad we took a chance on that than pick up a guy with Nathan Gerbe /Matt Gilroy upside.
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Personally I would've taken Jack Glover with that pick, a 6-3.5 RH shooting two way defenseman who is quick on his feet.
It would've both addressed a need, and would have been a good sized player.
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