[Rumour] Boomer: Flames are kicking tires to trade up to #2. Draisaitl might be the target. - Page 10 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

lanny9 · 06-26-2014, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root

talk about Bennett being an eastern conference player because he is small is simply ridiculous

Really, you think he is going to be able to go up against 6'2" -6'4" 225lb men shift in and shift out? I don't and it may be simply ridiculous that you think he will be able to handle it. That being said it is my opinion, you are welcome to yours, I am welcome to mine. I would draft draisaitl 10 times out of 10 times if the pick were between he and Bennett.

lanny9 · 06-26-2014, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

He isn't small either. Average sized and pretty close to Reinhart in terms of size.

And is why I said both those two would be better suited for the Eastern Conference. They play a smaller game on that side where those two could excel, Western are big strong guys who beat the hell out of each other in the playoffs, if we want to compete with that we need size and a certain ability to control hold puck.

I would not be upset with picking Reinhart or Bennet but do think their game translate to the other conference better. Just my opinion.

ricardodw · 06-26-2014, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Bennett is taller than Mike Peca. Peca was one of the most devastating hitters during a lot of his tenure in the league. And obviously Bennett is faster and more skilled than Peca.

Bennett should be fine as long as he adds strength and isn't rush too quickly.

Marchand and Andrew Shaw are significantly smaller than Bennett.

If these guy's were 2-3 inches taller (Bennett's size) they would be totally scary to play against.

Proof positive that Bennett will be physically dominate the NHL????

MrMastodonFarm · 06-26-2014, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by lanny9

Really, you think he is going to be able to go up against 6'2" -6'4" 225lb men shift in and shift out? I don't and it may be simply ridiculous that you think he will be able to handle it. That being said it is my opinion, you are welcome to yours, I am welcome to mine. I would draft draisaitl 10 times out of 10 times if the pick were between he and Bennett.

He won't right away, but yes eventually no doubt about it. Bennett is probably the one guy in the top tier that will go back to junior. Bennett isn't a small player either BTW and he won't be playing against bruisers shift in and shift out. Simmer down on the hyperbole.

Coach · 06-26-2014, 11:16 AM

"Simply ridiculous" seems a bit much. Both Toews and Landeskog do fine as defensive centres in the West. They're both about the same height and 20-30 lbs heavier. Not sure where I can find their draft year vitals, but given their body types I would venture to say they weren't much different.

6ft and 183, the kid has a lot of room to grow and add weight.

loob job · 06-26-2014, 11:20 AM

What bothers me about the draft is players rise and fall out of favour in the last month or two having not played one minute of hockey. Overanalyse is what everyone does best.

lanny9 · 06-26-2014, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

He won't right away, but yes eventually no doubt about it. Bennett is probably the one guy in the top tier that will go back to junior. Bennett isn't a small player either BTW and he won't be playing against bruisers shift in and shift out. Simmer down on the hyperbole.

You don't think he will go up against the biggest of men on a team? That is how the other coach will play against him guaranteed. Wear him down if he plays at maybe at tops 190lb. I don't think with his frame(looks to be small boned) he is going to be a 200lb+ player, if he did I think it would take a lot out of his game. I am simply not sold on him as I am maybe the other three in the draft, especially in the Western Conference. If he is what is left at 4 you take him but if you have a chance I think you take the other three.

T-Dog · 06-26-2014, 11:22 AM

Who knows at this point? Rumours like this may in fact mean that Draisaitl is the player in the top 4 the Flames like the LEAST and may want to spread rumours to push the Oilers into taking him at 3. For all we know the Flames may be higher on one or both of the Sams and want to make sure one of them falls to us.

Day Tripper · 06-26-2014, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by loob job

Just to add, you can bet that as long as there are no deals the Flames know who each team is going to likely pick. To probably 95% certainty. I think back to last years draft and after talking to some people with NHL ties I knew a week before that Jones was going to Nashville and Tallon was going to bypass him. The top 4 were as predicted by the people i talked to. So if I knew then I'm sure Nashville knew. It is a small community and the Flames will know to some certainty who's going to be sitting there at 4 our of the Sams Ekblad and Draisaitl, and if they don't like that one guy that is likely to be left there only choice is to move up and number 2 seems like the smartest place to go to get the one they like the best.

So who is gonna be there at #4 this year?

SebC · 06-26-2014, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Tinordi

I believe Draisatl has the highest NHL-E of any draft eligible prospect.

Nope. That'd be Reinhart.

OutOfTheCube · 06-26-2014, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolfman

Is there any way Flames could move to #2 without giving up #4? Buffalo has a lot of picks in the 1st and 2nd rounds in the next 2 years. Depends what the Sabres are after for roster players. They can't wait forever waiting for their draft picks to develop.

Monahan or Gaudreau. Even then it'd be an unlikely deal since the player picked at #2 likely projects higher.

There is no other roster player or prospect on the Flames that have a higher ceiling than whoever gets taken at #2.

squiggs96 · 06-26-2014, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashasx

The inside information is that the Flames want to move up (surprise surprise).

I really doubt Leon is high on the Flames list. How can Burke go from stating he doesn't like a player to then wanting to move up to draft him.

I would really like to play poker against you.

Ashasx: You said you didn't have the straight, and then you flip over the straight! I doubted you had the straight, because you said you didn't like the river card, and then put all of your chips in the middle to win the pot.

loob job · 06-26-2014, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Day Tripper

So who is gonna be there at #4 this year?

I wish i knew this year but I don't. It was very easy for me to know the top 4 last year due to my connections but not easy at all this year. I wish i could explain more. If it's bothering you though send me a message and i can explain how i knew last year.

EldrickOnIce · 06-26-2014, 11:50 AM

#1 centres on eastern conference playoff teams averaged under 6' and 200 lbs this year

In the west, I'm sure that average would be over 6'2" and 215

Doesn't mean he can't be that #1 guy in the west, but to say Bennett's size is better suited to the East is valid.

chopper89 · 06-26-2014, 11:52 AM

I think that the only way Calgary can lose, is if they get a case of the Feasters, and DON'T pick one of the top 4- opting for a 20-30th ISS-ranked player instead. Even picking one of the other top 10 isn't horrible with this year's depth.

Should be almost impossible to screw this up. *gulp*

Dr. Doom · 06-26-2014, 11:53 AM

Speculating but maybe they didn't bring him in because he's one of the guys they don't really care for. And that this rumor is planted to ensure team's above actually take him so the Flames get the real guy they are after.

T@T · 06-26-2014, 11:56 AM

If the flames trade #4 and Sven to get #2, I would loose my mind.

EldrickOnIce · 06-26-2014, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Doom

Speculating but maybe they didn't bring him in because he's one of the guys they don't really care for. And that this rumor is planted to ensure team's above actually take him so the Flames get the real guy they are after.

Exactly, or means nothing.
Getzlaf interviewed with 29 teams in 2003 - only did not interview with Anaheim.

Erick Estrada · 06-26-2014, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by T@T

If the flames trade #4 and Sven to get #2, I would loose my mind.

I don't think you or any of the worry warts need to lose sleep over the Flames trading assets to move up.

Bandwagon In Flames · 06-26-2014, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

Monahan or Gaudreau. Even then it'd be an unlikely deal since the player picked at #2 likely projects higher.

There is no other roster player or prospect on the Flames that have a higher ceiling than whoever gets taken at #2.

By that definition whoever gets taken at #4 has a projected higher ceiling than anyone else on the flames roster. Since the order of the top 4 is wide open, they must all be in that class correct?

This is a matter of Treliving and Burke getting their player. Since it's a top four draft it's not going to cost much to swap for the number 2 pick. Baertchi would be too costly if you ask me unless there was more involved. Perhaps a D.Jones for Chris Stewart swap if he has to come back in the deal.