06-24-2014, 12:39 PM
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#61
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Spartanville
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Looks like he hurt his prize weapons in the attack.
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06-24-2014, 12:41 PM
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#62
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Mckenzie Towne
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cam_wmh
The Italians got jobbed. That should've been a yellow.
And Suarez, LOL.
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Thanked for the bolded part. Some of my buddies are adamant that it was intent to injure and 100% a red. Sigh.
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06-24-2014, 12:42 PM
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#63
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Seeing some talk of a lifetime ban. Maybe a bit extreme but he certainly does not deserve the benefit of the doubt.
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06-24-2014, 12:45 PM
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#64
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
Seeing some talk of a lifetime ban. Maybe a bit extreme but he certainly does not deserve the benefit of the doubt.
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no need for a lifetime ban IMO, but it should be a lengthy suspension ... like 10-15 games.
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06-24-2014, 12:49 PM
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#65
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: too far from Calgary
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Such a talent save for his brontosaurus brain.
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06-24-2014, 12:50 PM
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#66
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: sector 7G
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Itse
...and empty machismo is why so many people find it hard to respect hockey as a sport.
If it bothers you so much, just don't watch.
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I don't think it's "empty machismo" to expect the pros to not flop like out of water fish. The Italians brought their "A" diving game and the Uraguaians (sp?) were up to the challenge. It's epidemic. That was a pretty brutal display.
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06-24-2014, 12:50 PM
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#67
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: too far from Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devo22
no need for a lifetime ban IMO, but it should be a lengthy suspension ... like 10-15 games.
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So would that be across all competitions or just for his national team?
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06-24-2014, 12:58 PM
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#69
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary Satellite Community
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Itse
...and empty machismo is why so many people find it hard to respect hockey as a sport.
If it bothers you so much, just don't watch.
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Wow, didnt realize I hurt your feelings guys.
Just making observations as a fan of sport. If you dont see what I am seeing, thats fine.
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06-24-2014, 01:01 PM
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#71
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Bournemouth, UK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by seattleflamer
So would that be across all competitions or just for his national team?
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It would be across all competitions.
It's now his 3rd biting offence, so as a "repeat offender" I would expect maybe 25 games. Maybe even a season.
At Man United in the past, Cantona was banned for 8 months for attacking a fan, and Rio Ferdinand the same length for missing a drugs test.
So a ban of that length wouldn't necessarily be out of the question.
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06-24-2014, 01:02 PM
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#72
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by greyshep
I am not talking just about biting.
I have been trying to watch as much of this world cup as possible and the theatrics and rolling around like the guy was shot by a sniper in the 50th row is out of this world. Getting carted off the field by a stretcher after getting hit in the shin or plain old falling down hard on the grass??? Guys covering their face because they are in "absolute agony".
Need any more examples?
Sorry there is no comparison to hockey here.
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Yes its soccer, or football, maybe even futball, but not hockey. That's a different sport, not sure why people have to keep comparing it, hey i love hockey and all the rough stuff but this is a different game, take it for what it is.
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06-24-2014, 01:03 PM
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#73
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by habernac
I don't think it's "empty machismo" to expect the pros to not flop like out of water fish. The Italians brought their "A" diving game and the Uraguaians (sp?) were up to the challenge. It's epidemic. That was a pretty brutal display.
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I have no problem with wanting players to not cheat and/or bend the rules. (Even though "if you're not cheating, you're not trying" has some truth to it.)
It is however empty machismo if you think it has something to do with "manning up". Hockey is just filled with that kind of language and "logic". It's very tiresome to listen to.
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Originally Posted by greyshep
Wow, didnt realize I hurt your feelings guys.
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Thanks for pretty much underlining my point
(That's not to say that soccer is free of irritating machismo. But hockey is far worse. And that's enough about this for me for now.)
Last edited by Itse; 06-24-2014 at 01:09 PM.
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06-24-2014, 01:09 PM
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#74
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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06-24-2014, 01:10 PM
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#75
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Lifetime Suspension
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Marchismo definitely deserved the red, and from a neutral standpoint that kicked off the game. The Italians once again played for a zero or one goal win and they have been bitten(maybe not literally...) before. When they had a great team and the home game advantage in 1990, they insisted on packing in a one goal lead in the semi final and lost.
A one goal lead is never safe. With regards to Suarez, he went over the line again, a shame but his world cup is over.
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06-24-2014, 01:11 PM
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#76
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary Satellite Community
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Itse
I have no problem with wanting players to not cheat and/or bend the rules. (Even though "if you're not cheating, you're not trying" has some truth to it.)
It is however empty machismo if you think it has something to do with "manning up". Hockey is just filled with that kind of language and "logic". It's very tiresome to listen to.
(That's not to say that soccer is free of that. But hockey is far worse. And that's enough about this for me for now.)
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I wasnt even comparing it to hockey. I guess I expect men to act as such regardless of the sport they are playing.
Maybe I am alone on that.
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06-24-2014, 01:12 PM
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#77
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Unfortunately when you watch soccer, far more often the wrong thing (flopping/diving/embellising) gets rewarded while the right thing never does. I think the refs deserve as much blame for the level of flopping as the players. When you more often than not give a call for a dive and rarely punish diving, it's simply encouraging it.
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06-24-2014, 01:12 PM
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#78
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterJoji
Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
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06-24-2014, 01:14 PM
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#79
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Franchise Player
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What drives me the most crazy about diving in soccer is the times that the player dives away a good opportunity. Where he had his man beat, he had space, he just needed to stay on his feet and he dives. Infuriating.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterJoji
Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
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06-24-2014, 01:16 PM
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#80
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by greyshep
I wasnt even comparing it to hockey. I guess I expect men to act as such regardless of the sport they are playing.
Maybe I am alone on that.
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Is that coming from the heights of the moral high ground? I suggest golf or tennis then.
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