Hall of Fame Inductees - June 26

[albertGQ]

Mogilny had no Hart Trophy votes from his best season, 1992-93 (when he tied Teemu for the league league with 76 goals, and only four other in his career, from 1995-96, his second best season.

[Puppet Guy]

Pat Burns has been named to the Hall of Fame. About f***in' time.

Burns will be posthumously inducted as a builder four years after his death at the age of 58. The only coach to win the Jack Adams Award three times, he did so once each with the Montreal Canadiens, Toronto Maple Leafs and Boston Bruins and then captured the Stanley Cup with the New Jersey Devils.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...ticle19299081/

[nik-]

It's a good thing that they just decided to wait for no reason and then inducted Pat Burns anyway.

#######s man.

[spuzzum]

Originally Posted by habernac

Recchi was a decent player, but I always thought of him as a complimentary player.

There's often no love for small people. Theo included.

[codynw]

So why Forsberg but not Lindros? Both had short careers, which is supposedly the reason Lindros hasn't made it. I don't get it, Lindros deserves to be there. One of the most dominant players of all time when he was in his prime.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by codynw

So why Forsberg but not Lindros? Both had short careers, which is supposedly the reason Lindros hasn't made it. I don't get it, Lindros deserves to be there. One of the most dominant players of all time when he was in his prime.

I would bet reputation more than anything. In terms of silverware, Forsberg is a Triple Gold Club member (SC + 2x OG + 2x WC), while Lindros has only an Olympic gold (Forsberg has 3 WC silvers, Lindros an OG silver)

But at a more basic level, when the HHOF selection committee is only 18 members, and is primarily comprised of hockey lifers, things like snubbing the team that drafted you might not sit well with just enough people to effectively blackball you.

[BlackWallStreet]

Does any know how many former flames are in the hall?

[cKy]

Originally Posted by BlackWallStreet

Does any know how many former flames are in the hall?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...y_Hall_of_Fame

7 if this list is correct.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by codynw

So why Forsberg but not Lindros? Both had short careers, which is supposedly the reason Lindros hasn't made it. I don't get it, Lindros deserves to be there. One of the most dominant players of all time when he was in his prime.

• Lindros (760GP 372G 493A 865P)
  1. Championships
     • Stanley Cup: 0
     • Olympic Gold: 1
     • World Championship: 0
  2. Awards
     • Hart: 1
     • Pearson: 1
     • Richard: 0
     • Art Ross: 0
  3. Statistical "Top-Twenty All-time" Appearances
     • Regular season ppg: 19th
     • Playoff ppg: 20th
  4. Notes
     • 4th fastest player in NHL history to score 300 points
     • 4th fastest player in NHL history to score 400 points
     • 5th fastest player in NHL history to score 500 points
     • 6th fastest player in NHL history to score 600 points
  5. Injuries
     • 2001/12/21 Missed 3 games (sprained left knee)
     • 2002/01/05 Missed 4 games (concussion)
     • 2002/02/06 Missed 1 game (sprained right MCL)
     • 2002/03/16 Missed 2 games (bruised foot)
     • 2003/11/08 Missed 7 games (sprained left shoulder)
     • 2003/11/23 Missed 4 games (left eye injury)
     • 2004/01/24 Missed 1 game (flu)
     • 2004/04/04 Missed the last 31 games of the regular season (shoulder surgery/mild concussion)
     • 2006/02/28 Missed 27 games (wrist injury)
     • 2006/04/18 Missed the last 22 games of the regular season (wrist injury)
     • 2006/12/12 Missed 4 games (bruised foot)
     • 2007/01/09 Missed 7 games (foot injury)
     • 2007/02/27 Missed 6 games (lower body injury)
     • 2007/04/19 Missed the last 16 games of the regular season and Game 1, 2, 3 and 4 of Round One (groin)
  
  
• Forsberg (708GP 249G 636A 885P)
  1. Championships
     • Stanley Cup: 2
     • Olympic Gold: 2
     • World Championship: 2
  2. Awards
     • Hart: 1
     • Pearson: 0
     • Richard: 0
     • Art Ross: 1
  3. Statistical "Top-Twenty All-time" Appearances
     • Regular season points per game: 8th
     • Regular season assists per game: 5th
     • Playoff points: 18th
     • Playoff points per game: 11th
     • Playoff goals: 20th
     • Playoff game-winning goals: 10th
     • Playoff overtime goals: 15th
     • Playoff assists: 20th
     • Playoff +/-: 8th
     • Playoff shooting %: 16th
  4. Notes
     • Set all-time tournament record at the 1993 World Junior Championships with 31 points in only seven games
     • Third player in history to have enough titles to be a member of the Triple-Gold Club twice
     • Eighth in NHL all-time points-per-game, with 1.25 points-per-game in his career
     • Fifth all-time in NHL career assists-per-game with 0.898, behind only Wayne Gretzky, Mario Lemieux, Bobby Orr and Sidney Crosby
     • Finished first in playoff scoring in the 2002 Playoffs, despite being eliminated in the third round (and having not played in a single regular season game that season)
  5. Injuries
     • 2000/12/03 Missed 8 games (rib injury)
     • 2001/06/09 Missed the last 12 games of the playoffs (spleen surgery)
     • 2002/04/18 Missed all 82 games of the regular season (ankle/foot injury)
     • 2002/04/29 Missed Game 6 of Round One (leg injury)
     • 2002/12/06 Missed 2 games (groin)
     • 2002/12/21 Missed 3 games (concussion)
     • 2002/12/27 Missed 1 game (flu)
     • 2003/03/20 Missed 1 game (bruised leg)
     • 2003/11/06 Missed 3 games (groin)
     • 2003/12/27 Missed 19 games (groin)
     • 2004/01/24 Missed 4 games (groin)
     • 2004/03/23 Missed 17 games (hip injury)
     • 2005/12/10 Missed 6 games (strained groin)
     • 2006/01/23 Missed 2 games (groin)
     • 2006/03/01 Missed 8 games (groin)
     • 2006/03/21 Missed 1 game (knee injury)
     • 2006/04/15 Missed 4 games (groin)
     • 2006/04/18 Missed 1 game (groin)
     • 2006/10/26 Missed 1 game (left wrist injury)
     • 2006/11/15 Missed 2 games (ankle injury)
     • 2006/11/24 Missed 1 game (back injury)
     • 2006/12/16 Missed 5 games (foot injury/flu)
     • 2006/12/27 Missed 3 games (concussion)
     • 2007/01/11 Missed 4 games (groin)
     • 2007/03/17 Missed 6 games (upper body injury)
     • 2008/03/17 Missed 4 games (groin)
     • 2008/03/24 Missed 2 games (groin)
     • 2008/04/01 Missed 1 game (groin)
     • 2008/04/29 Missed Game 1 and 2 of Round Two (back injury)
     • 2008/05/02 Missed Game 4 of Round Two(back injury)

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Personally, I rank Lemieux's playoff reputation right along with Mark Messier's leadership reputation: vastly overrated. In the regular season, Lemieux scored .645ppg. His playoff average was .675. An improvement, but hardly legendary. He had a couple of ridiculous single-year performances (1995 and 1997 in particular), but one of the top playoff performers of all-time? A little bit of hyperbole there.

If you've won 4 Stanley Cups, a Conn Smythe and you've scored the 9th most playoff goals in NHL history, I think it's fair to say you're one of the top playoff performers of all-time.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

If you've won 4 Stanley Cups, a Conn Smythe and you've scored the 9th most playoff goals in NHL history, I think it's fair to say you're one of the top playoff performers of all-time.

Charlie Huddy won five Cups. I don't think anyone is going to call him one of the greatest playoff defencemen of all time. And Lemieux ranks ninth in goals for on the basis of games played alone. His 82-game average for goals scored in the playoffs is 28. A solid number, but hardly legendary. (In fairness, it is a noticeable improvement on his 82-game average of 21.4 in the regular season).

Lemieux was a very good player in both the regular season and playoffs. He was a little better in the playoffs than the regular season. Like Messier, the legend of his reputation is built on the basis of a couple very impressive single-year runs that have been applied retroactively against his entire career.