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Old 06-19-2014, 09:39 AM   #881
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Old 06-19-2014, 09:41 AM   #882
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I'm posting it because of the someone. And that he's talking about playing the right men in a system.
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I'm posting it because of the someone. And that he's talking about playing the right men in a system.
That's hilarious! His genius knows no bounds.
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Old 06-19-2014, 11:07 AM   #884
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Old 06-19-2014, 11:34 AM   #885
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That was a great run. I think Iker Cassilla shouldn't have started at goal. He punched out the free kick weak and let to the first Chille goal. You have to punch the ball out of the box if you were to punch out.

And subbing in Torres was just hoping for yesterday once more. They didn't put up a good fight in the second half when the Chillean were sitting back a little.

These Spanish players have done enough for their country and it's time for the next generation to take over.
While true, thats not going to be a fun or easy transition. You might see most of Spain's first choice players retire at almost the same time.

- Xavi
- Xabi
- Iniesta
- Torres
- David Villa
- Casillas
- Reina

Pique and Ramos are only 27 and 28 but they already look well past their best and it doesnt seem likely they'd make another world cup.
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Old 06-19-2014, 07:22 PM   #886
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I think their transition will be fine

I would imagine at the Euro's they throw out a team around

DDG
Azpi/Ramos/Javi Martinez/Alba
Thiago/Busquets/Koke
Jese/Morata/Isco

with guys like Mata, Iniesta, Fabregas, Deolofeu, Costa, Illaramendi, Munian etc. all possibilities as well
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The most boring reign in history how many 1-0 snooze fests did they taje part in? A talented roster playing nasty.

Thank God tiki taka is dead
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It's just funny seeing experts get it wrong sometimes.
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Catalonia seems pretty intent on holding a referendum this fall so who knows what Spain will even look like next WC. A lot of the Barcelona guys could switch allegiances.
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Look who's defending diving:

http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/201...?__federated=1

Edmonton. No good.
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Edmonton. No good.
Or they can act like men, and stop this crap!
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http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/201...?__federated=1

Edmonton. No good.
He didn't cover guys getting tapped in the shoulder, arms, or basically non-leg/foot areas and doing backflips/kicking their own legs out from under themselves and falling on the ground. Must not be a problem.
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Diving to win the game isn't working for the Italians, but kudos to them for sticking to the game plan. That's dedication.
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I'm going to add to this.

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Champions League: Real Madrid
La Liga: Athletico Madrid
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Team came back from 0-2 to win FA Cup
Eurovision: Austria
First Round Exit: Spain
World Cup: Host Country
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I'm going to add to this.

1966
Champions League: Real Madrid
La Liga: Athletico Madrid
Fulham Relgated
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Eurovision: Austria
First Round Exit: Spain
World Cup: Host Country
You Asians and your superstitious gambling trends :P
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He didn't cover guys getting tapped in the shoulder, arms, or basically non-leg/foot areas and doing backflips/kicking their own legs out from under themselves and falling on the ground. Must not be a problem.
I think this World Cup has been very good and has had little diving.

I'll explain how I see it and it may not be totally correct.

I make a distinction between diving and embelleshing (or what I call falling theatrically). I believe the refs do to.

I think in soccer, everything depends on what happens first. Whatever happens first negates whatever happens next.

Examples:
offsides will nullify any fouls or any goals.
outstretched arm blocking space will nullify ball to hand.
foul will negate falling theatrically.

Remember this is not like hockey where you can have a trip AND a dive. This cannot happen in soccer, whatever happens first negates everything else.

So in the case of a trip, whatever the player does afterwards, even if he cries and does 3 rolls, doesn't matter. The refs calls the foul. You may think that the player rolls around to try to get cards but at this level of reffing I rarely see yellow cards for voilent conduct, I see most yellow cards for deliberately fouling (stopping counter attacks) or persistant fouling (you'll see a ref actually count on his fingers to 4 or 5 before giving out the yellow card). For example Muller grabbing his face. Ref was going ignore that, he didn't even give a free kick. It's only when Pepe went back at him that he got a red card.

All the red cards in the tournament so far have been justified, no ref has been duped into one like faking Rivaldo in 2002.

We'll use Monday as an example. The Algerians were diving all over the field untouched and the ref ignored it. It eventually led to a Belgian counter attack and a goal. In the Brazil-Mexico game Neymar and a few others were accused of diving. But they were tripped. They were fouled first so it negates everything else. And for all the times Neymar was fouled, his theatrics just make him look stupid. It didn't cause a Mexican player to unjustly get a yellow card. In fact if you watch the 2nd half while Brazil were attacking, there were a few times Neymar could have dived, but he never felt any contact so he didn't fall. If he did, he wouldn't have got the call and maybe could have booked.

and the slow-mo replays make it worse. Nobody falls with their mouth closed.. there always has to be some sort of reaction. Yes the rolling on the ground is stupid but it's not really a big deal.. refs totally ignore that.

And one last thing, sometimes it's just easier for a player to fall when he feels contact. With the studs the players wear now, quickly trying to stop and not fall might cause injury. So just fall.
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God damnit, Roy is back for 2018
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