World Cup GDT: June 18th

[MillerTime GFG]

Originally Posted by Locke

Holy crap! Are you sure? Because almost all hand balls in the box are unintentional, so refs have been calling it wrong all these years?

Have you informed the authorities?

The game as we know it will be shaken to the core with this news folks.

Further to Locke's statement, intent really only matters if it's not in the box. If it's what they call "ball to hand", not "hand to ball" outside of the 18, they'll let it go. If it's inside the 18, and your arms are stretched out and the ball happens to hit your arm...sorry, it's a hand-ball and a PK. That's why you see so many defenders defending with their hands behind their backs when they're in the box. (See Brazil's David Luiz)

[devo22]

R.I.P. tiki taka

[MillerTime GFG]

Originally Posted by Bagor

Awww.... Your sarcasm is a sad attempt Locke to mask the fact that yet again you are clueless as to what you are talking about.
Read the rules old boy before pretending that you know them.

Sorry Bagor, you're actually in the wrong here.

[Bill Bumface]

Otherwise ever single defender would assume a constant vertical snow angel position in the box...

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Bagor

Awww.... Your sarcasm is a sad attempt Locke to mask the fact that yet again you are clueless as to what you are talking about.
Read the rules old boy before pretending that you know them.

Go home and hug your rule book champ.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Bagor

Awww.... Your sarcasm is a sad attempt Locke to mask the fact that yet again you are clueless as to what you are talking about.
Read the rules old boy before pretending that you know them.

Really he is not wrong. That may be the rule book but it is not the way the rule is called.

It is pretty much if your arm is tucked into your body- not a hand ball.

If your arm is away from your body- a hand ball.

Intent really doesn't come in to the picture IMO since intent is impossible to tell.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by Locke

Go home and hug your rule book champ.

LOL! Someone is butt hurt.

Stop pretending to know the rules.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by MillerTime GFG

Further to Locke's statement, intent really only matters if it's not in the box. If it's what they call "ball to hand", not "hand to ball" outside of the 18, they'll let it go. If it's inside the 18, and your arms are stretched out and the ball happens to hit your arm...sorry, it's a hand-ball and a PK. That's why you see so many defenders defending with their hands behind their backs when they're in the box. (See Brazil's David Luiz)

I think it's the same outside the box too, the ball cannot touch your arm when it's away from your body because it is blocking passing lanes.

Or else players would just be crazilly waving their arms in the air as they approach an attacker. Or players in a defensive wall would have their arms in air instead of covering their nads.

[Ozy_Flame]

Good bye champs. Good-bye winning my pool. Ugh.

[Pagal4321]

Originally Posted by Bagor

Awww.... Your sarcasm is a sad attempt Locke to mask the fact that yet again you are clueless as to what you are talking about.
Read the rules old boy before pretending that you know them.

Are you serious dude? I think I'll go ahead and trust ANY ref at the World Cup, including the ref in the BRA/CRO match, than you and your rule book.

But feel free to add me to the clueless group as well, I'm okay with that.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by devo22

go home Spain, you're drunk!

And so they shall.

[MillerTime GFG]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

I think it's the same outside the box too, the ball cannot touch your arm when it's away from your body because it is blocking passing lanes.

Or else players would just be crazilly waving their arms in the air as they approach an attacker. Or players in a defensive wall would have their arms in air instead of covering their nads.

If it's a bang-bang play, most refs will let it go. All refs will call it differently though.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Intent really doesn't come in to the picture IMO since intent is impossible to tell.

And as such is at the discretion of the referee to determine.
That is why it is different from a high stick which is a black and white call regardless.
A handball can be a handball and not necessarily a foul is the referree determine it to be accidental as per the rules. Intent is considered in calling a foul or not.

[Itse]

Did a quick history check. This is the fifth time the ruling champion has failed to make it out of the group stage. (Out of 18 possible times. 1934 games didn't have a group stage.)

1950 Italy
1966 Brazil
2002 France
2010 Italy
2014 Spain.

Soccer is truly the most unpredictable team sport.

[MillerTime GFG]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Or else players would just be crazilly waving their arms in the air as they approach an attacker. Or players in a defensive wall would have their arms in air instead of covering their nads.

I think that would make it intentional lol.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by Pagal4321

Are you serious dude? I think I'll go ahead and trust ANY ref at the World Cup, including the ref in the BRA/CRO match, than you and your rule book.

But feel free to add me to the clueless group as well, I'm okay with that.

What are you rambling about?
Simple fact is that refs as per the rules determine intent when determining whether or not to whistle a handball. Agree or disagree?

[GirlySports]

yup 3 out of the last 4 cups, amazing.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by MillerTime GFG

I think that would make it intentional lol.

If I'm standing in a wall and have my arms stationary above my head, that's ball to hand!

[GirlySports]

[MillerTime GFG]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

If I'm standing in a wall and have my arms stationary above my head, that's ball to hand!

Well that's why it's situational. The rule is not set in stone, yet most call it the same. Every ref would call that a free kick in that situation. If your hand is tucked into your body in a wall and it makes contact with it though, it's not a free-kick.