Ryan O Reilly

[GoJetsGo]

No one is going to want to hear this, and by no means am I advocating it...

but I think something surrounding Gio for RoR could get it done as that sees both teams come away with value they're desperately needing.

I wouldn't want to do it, but I think that would be the heavy price tag.

[bluck]

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

No one is going to want to hear this, and by no means am I advocating it...

but I think something surrounding Gio for RoR could get it done as that sees both teams come away with value they're desperately needing.

I wouldn't want to do it, but I think that would be the heavy price tag.

Are you drunk? Of course it could get it done.. but why even suggest the impossible.

[Zulu29]

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

No one is going to want to hear this, and by no means am I advocating it...

but I think something surrounding Gio for RoR could get it done as that sees both teams come away with value they're desperately needing.

I wouldn't want to do it, but I think that would be the heavy price tag.

I don't think that's crazy. I'd hate to lose Gio but you have to give to get. That leaves an absolute gaping hole on our D and leadership though...

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by bluck

Are you drunk? Of course it could get it done.. but why even suggest the impossible.

How is it impossible? You should try looking up what that word actually means.

[bluck]

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

How is it impossible? You should try looking up what that word actually means.

Because it would never happen, what a stupid post.

[mile]

Originally Posted by dammage79

These are the kind of players a re-building team should target.

Of course - but not at the cost it would likely take to acquire him, especially for a rebuilding team.

The Avs are not going take 2nd/3rd rounders+ for O'Reilly - they'll probably want a 1st round pick in return.

I'd rather draft/develop our own players who will learn and grow through our own system, and if those players are not good enough, that is when we make those improvements via trade/FA.

You should always field calls and look at what it would take to acquire these players, but its rare to come across a great deal like Dallas found with Seguin.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by bluck

Because it would never happen what a stupid post.

Yea my bad. Why inject a dose of realism into the discussion. Mentioning what it actually might take to acquire the player this thread is about in a discussion about what it might take to acquire him is sure a stupid thing to bring up.

If you don't have anything useful to contribute, why even post?

[bluck]

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

Yea my bad. Why inject a dose of realism into the discussion. Mentioning what it actually might take to acquire the player this thread is about in a discussion about what it might take to acquire him is sure a stupid thing to bring up.

If you don't have anything useful to contribute, why even post?

Lol go back to Winnipeg and cheer on your Jets. It's not even realistic because the Flames would never trade Giordano for ROR. Hence your post is useless.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by bluck

Lol go back to Winnipeg and cheer on your Jets. It's not even realistic because the Flames would never trade Giordano for ROR. Hence your post is useless.

No, suggesting Widemen and 2nd rounds picks would land O'Reily is stupid. As is posting with nothing but the intention of calling someone else stupid.

I was merely pointing out that you need to give value to get it. It was very much on point and on topic. Your insulting and attacking posts are not.

[bluck]

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

No, suggesting Widemen and 2nd rounds picks would land O'Reily is stupid. As is posting with nothing but the intention of calling someone else stupid.

I was merely pointing out that you need to give value to get it. It was very much on point and on topic. Your insulting and attacking posts are not.

O good lord go grab a tissue and cry yourself to sleep.

[gilligans_off]

Originally Posted by bluck

Lol go back to Winnipeg and cheer on your Jets. It's not even realistic because the Flames would never trade Giordano for ROR. Hence your post is useless.

Are YOU drunk? Or just an A-hole? Maybe go kick a puppy.

[bluck]

Originally Posted by gilligans_off

Are YOU drunk? Or just an ass hole

The second one actually.

[gilligans_off]

Originally Posted by bluck

The second one actually.

Ya don't say...

[FAN]

Given the rumors of the Flames making an offer for Spezza, I honestly don't see the Flames sitting pat and not making some big moves to improve the team in the immediate future. So I believe that with ROR, the Flames would not be drafting in the top 5 next season. If ROR is acquired, you can bet that there will be other moves that improves the team in the immediate future.

So if ROR can be had for next year's 1st, I say make the deal. I don't think ROR is the type of franchise center Feaster imagined, but he's a good, proven player who is durable and can play center or wing. You can expect 20+ goals and 60+ points from him.

[Ashasx]

It's not just McDavid next year... the top end of the 2015 draft is just as good if not better than 2013.

You don't make an offer sheet when you're one of the worst teams in the league. That's ridiculously stupid.

[FlamesAddiction]

ROR is an ideal 2nd line center on a good team.

Is a 2nd line center worth more than our first rounder next year?

Is a 2nd line center holding us back from being Cup contenders?


If the answer is no to either of these questions, then you do not make an offersheet for him. It's as simple as that.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by mile

There is no comparison between the two.

ROR is not in the same tier as Seguin - He isn't an elite top line center, and certainly not someone you unload a high draft pick for when you are rebuilding.

Seguin in his first season where he got top line ice time finished 4th overall in league scoring a feat ROR will never accomplish likely ever. ROR will be a great 2nd line centre over his career but the Flames will get that just from picking one of the Sam's or the German kid this year and they aren't going to command $6 million for a long time.

[BACKCHECK!!!]

Originally Posted by erick estrada

ror will be a great 2nd line centre over his career but the flames might get that just from picking one of the sam's or the german kid this year...

ftfy.

[Scoutski]

I think I'm in the huge minority in that I wouldn't be upset if it happened. I completely understand everyone's excitement for the 2015 draft but there are a couple of really important things to consider.

1) People are excited about the chance to draft McDavid, even if we are in the best position to do so, that chance is 25%. It's impossible to predict our performance next season compared to every other team in the league so we would first of all need to perform so poorly (vs teams like Buffalo and Edmonton) to get that chance.
2) IF we were to add Ryan O'Reilly to the team, they would be a better team than if we did not have him. This doesn't specifically put us in the playoffs or anything, but it's not unrealistic to think our draft position may improve, thus making that pick less valuable.
3) RoR is a known commodity and is the ideal candidate to add due to his age and experience and what we know we would get out of him in the future. It's the type of player management is always talking about trying to acquire.
4) Our 2015 draft picks are still unknown commodities and I won't argue that there is potential we could acquire a player(s) that has a higher ceiling than RoR but that doesn't mean they will reach it.

Essentially it's a risk vs reward scenario where I feel like the grey area isn't given much consideration. We don't need to bank the entire future of the franchise on the next draft, especially considering we had THREE first round picks last year. Also there's a chance we pick up another first somewhere down the line next season to lessen the impact.

Let me finish by saying that I'm not gunning for the Flames to do this, but there's merit and I could understand the decision. I think there is currently a lot more value given to the draft picks next year than players who we know can play and have a long career ahead of them.

[codynw]

It's not just McDavid in next years draft. The whole class is supposedly full of potential superstars. In terms of quality, it's being compared to the 2003 draft. That pick should be 100% off limits.