Legalize prostitution in canada?

[prime333]

Prostitution survey finds support for making selling sex legal

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/pros...egal-1.2661870


It baffles me. Prostitution is the most exploitative, degrading work on Earth.

[Ducay]

Originally Posted by prime333

Prostitution survey finds support for making selling sex legal

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/pros...egal-1.2661870


It baffles me. Prostitution is the most exploitative, degrading work on Earth.

ITT: People who do not understand prostitution and the issues facing it. Lets keep demonizing it and forcing the workers into more and more dangerous of an environment.

[prime333]

Originally Posted by Ducay

ITT: People who do not understand prostitution and the issues facing it. Lets keep demonizing it and forcing the workers into more and more dangerous of an environment.

What is there to understand? Are you a father? would you want your daughter to work as a hooker? Do you think parents want there daughter to work as a hooker?

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by prime333

Prostitution survey finds support for making selling sex legal

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/pros...egal-1.2661870


It baffles me. Prostitution is the most exploitative, degrading work on Earth.

Despite our best efforts, it's unlikely we will ever be able to completely eliminate prostitution. It isn't called "the world's oldest profession" for nothing. Once you accept the fact that there will always be people in situations so desperate that they will sell their bodies for money, the most compassionate response is to make the sex trade as safe as possible for those who are working in it. Existing laws drive sex workers underground and promote pimping, putting prostitutes in great danger. Legalizing and regulating the industry would do much to improve safety while also making it easier for sex trade workers to gain access to support and resources that will help them escape that lifestyle if they so choose.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by prime333

What is there to understand? Are you a father? would you want your daughter to work as a hooker? Do you think parents want there daughter to work as a hooker?

Of course not, but if she ever found herself in that situation, I would want her as safe and protected as possible under the circumstances, not exploited by a pimp.

[CaptainCrunch]

if legalization takes it out of the hands of the pimps, provides medical care and mental health care and provides the girls with an exit strategy, then I think in this case you have to do it.

At the end of the day, if they legalize it, they're not going to legalize the human trafficking or under aged prostitute aspect of it, if anything the penalties for those people and pimps and exploiters can be made harsher.

The girls for the most part(but not all the time) are victimized to a large extent, we should be doing everything that we can to get the victims out of the formula.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Speaking of baffling...

A majority of people who responded to a Justice Department online survey on prostitution earlier this year felt that purchasing sexual services should be a criminal offence.

However, two-thirds of them said selling sex should not be an offence.

A majority also said that benefiting economically from the prostitution of an adult should be illegal.

So it should be a crime to purchase sex....but totally legal to sell sex? Ooooook then, let's sell a product that's illegal to purchase. Brilliant!

[Wood]

Originally Posted by prime333

What is there to understand? Are you a father? would you want your daughter to work as a hooker? Do you think parents want there daughter to work as a hooker?

The bigger problem is most of these girls aren't doing it because they want to be prostitutes, they are doing this against their will

Making it legal will make it much safer and regulated

I agree no one wants to see their daughter become a hooker, in a perfect world prostitution wouldn't exist. It's not going anywhere though so might as well do what we can to make it safer

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by prime333

Prostitution survey finds support for making selling sex legal

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/pros...egal-1.2661870


It baffles me. Prostitution is the most exploitative, degrading work on Earth.

Legalize it, offer protection and a safe work environment for the women that choose to do it, and free up resources to go after the human trafficking groups. This isn't a perfect world, there has and always will be prostitution. It's about time we stopped pretending otherwise and offered real solutions instead of trying to fight an unwinnable battle

[strombad]

Originally Posted by prime333

What is there to understand? Are you a father? would you want your daughter to work as a hooker? Do you think parents want there daughter to work as a hooker?

Last I checked, the legality of the profession wasn't stopping people.

Raise your children right, do the best you can, but should a situation arise where they choose that profession (or feel they have no other options) then let them receive the utmost care and protection.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

My literal reaction:



If we legalize prostitution we can put in safeguards to ensure the protection of those who work in the sex industry.

Originally Posted by prime333

Prostitution is the most exploitative, degrading work on Earth.

Prostitution is the most exploitative, degrading work on Earth because it's illegal. If we can provide safety to those who work as prostitutes it will help curb the fact that it's currently exploitative and degrading.

Originally Posted by prime333

Are you a father? would you want your daughter to work as a hooker? Do you think parents want there daughter to work as a hooker?

Are you a father? Would you want your daughter to work as a stripper? Do you think parents want there daughter to work as a stripper?

Are you a father? Would you want your daughter to work as a pornography actress? Do you think parents want there daughter to work as a pornography actress?

We already have women working in the sex industry, but our government has said that you can't have sex if there is direct skin on skin contact with the penis and/or vagina and/or anus for money unless it's filmed.

The fact there it is illegal for direct skin on skin contact with the penis and/or vagina and/or anus for money unless it's filmed, but all other aspects of sex work are legal (unless you are an agent for someone who has direct skin on skin contact with the penis and/or vagina and/or anus for money unless it's filmed) and that fathers are perfectly fine with their daughters working in sex work unless there is direct skin on skin contact with the penis and/or vagina and/or anus for money unless it's filmed is ludicrous.


Why don't we legalize working in the sex industry, give those who work in the industry the ability to work in a safe environment, give them the ability to empower themselves and protect themselves within the law (which currently doesn't exist) that way they can be empowered to follow avenues to change their profession?

[PsYcNeT]

I don't know why "fathers" are so up in arms about their daughters/sons having sex for a living. It's just sex.

[strombad]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

I don't know why "fathers" are so up in arms about their daughters/sons having sex for a living. It's just sex.

Because sex is bad and scary! And naked bodies are icky! Icky icky!
Unless it's in Game of Thrones, then every dad is pretty much high fiving every other dad, cause hey, some other father's daughter's boobs!

[Flash Walken]

It's exploitive and degrading because society refuses to acknowledge that people enjoy having sex.

It's a vestige of the puritanical morality of bygone institutions. It's also a nice patriarchal law that helps control women and their bodies.

Jesus displays his compassion by associating with a whore. What a nice guy.

So how did Mary become a repentant whore in Christian legend?

Critical scholarship has provided the answer to this question: It happened as a conscious attempt on the part of later interpreters of the Gospels to diminish her.a They did this by identifying her with other women mentioned in the Gospels, most notably the unnamed sinful woman who anoints Jesus’ feet with ointment and whose sins he forgives (Luke 7:36–50) and the unnamed woman taken in adultery (John 7:53–8:11).6 This conflation of texts was given sanction in the sixth century by Pope Gregory the Great (540–604) in a famous homily in which he holds Mary up as a model of penitence. Pope Gregory positively identified the unnamed anointer and adulteress as Mary, and suggested that the ointment used on Jesus’ feet was once used to scent Mary’s body. The seven demons Jesus cast out of Mary were, according to Gregory, the seven cardinal sins, which include lust. But, wrote Gregory, when Mary threw herself at Jesus’ feet, “she turned the mass of her crimes to virtues, in order to serve God entirely in penance.”7

Thus was invented the original hooker with a heart of gold.

Interestingly, the legend of Mary the penitent whore is found only in the Western church; in the Eastern church she is honored for what she was, a witness to the resurrection. Another Gregory, Gregory of Antioch (also sixth century), in one of his homilies, has Jesus say to the women at the tomb: “Proclaim to my disciples the mysteries which you have seen. Become the first teacher of the teachers. Peter, who has denied me, must learn that I can also choose women as apostles.”8

http://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/d...-a-prostitute/

[undercoverbrother]

I am a dad, of two (1 boy & 1 girl).

Would I want either working in the "sex industry" (for want of a better term)? No.

But here is the thing about raising kids (IMO), you can't raise them to do what you want. You have to let them chart their own course. As a parent you try to educate/equip them to make good/informed decisions. But, in the end you must allow them to make decisions and choose their life. I would express my thoughts on the decision, but I would not condem them for their choice. Who am I to condem them?

Legalization will clean it up, and make it safer.

While you might not want you child working in the industry, why would you want someone else's working in it if it continues to be unsafe?

[Reaper]

Prostitution is legal in Canada. Public solicitation for the purposes of prostitution and operating an establishment (brothel) for the purposes of prostitution are both illegal.

It has never been illegal to exchange sex for money in Canada. It is surprising how many people do not know this.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by Reaper

Prostitution is legal in Canada. Public solicitation for the purposes of prostitution and operating an establishment (brothel) for the purposes of prostitution are both illegal.

It has never been illegal to exchange sex for money in Canada. It is surprising how many people do not know this.

While you are technically correct ("The best kind of correct!"), the Supreme Court ruled last year that the current prostitution laws make it de facto impossible for sex trade workers to safely conduct their business. As such, Canada's prostitution laws are to be thrown out after a one year delay, and the SC sent the issue back to parliament to create new legislation.

[WhiteTiger]

There are people (both males and females) who want to legally work in this profession (see the Ranches in Nevada, for instance, or the legal brothels out of country). Let them work legally doing what they want. Take away the stigmatization of both buying and selling sex and make it safer for those who want to engage in such activities.

Why is this a problem? Oh, yeah...the great big invisible man in the sky says that sex is bad.

[polak]

I for one welcome our new sexy hooker overlords.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by WhiteTiger

There are people (both males and females) who want to legally work in this profession (see the Ranches in Nevada, for instance, or the legal brothels out of country). Let them work legally doing what they want. Take away the stigmatization of both buying and selling sex and make it safer for those who want to engage in such activities.

Why is this a problem? Oh, yeah...the great big invisible man in the sky says that sex is bad.

Oh come on, this has less to do with the big invisible man in the sky, and more to do with people with a puritan interpretation of life or their religion or their so called superior morality..

there were a lot of people lying with a lot of people back then and in the bible.

the whole concept of the stained or dirty woman has more to do with perception of loose morals in terms of being willing to sell their virtues then god saying sex is bad.

Or is this whole statement by you as an attempt to add a religious debate to a legal and societal debate because it makes you edgy and cool.

you were bang on in your first paragraph.

There are woman out there that willingly make prostitution a career, its been that way through out history. But we need to reform the laws to protect the vulnerable and provide them with a way out.